lol you get your understanding of mgtow from "(((reddit))) (((twitter))) and (((MSM)))" and then word salad based on that strawman. You clearly conflate incel with mgtow. MGTOW isn't fucking concerned or needing help with getting women to flock or mens issues; That is incels, puas, and mras. look. MGTOWs generally get women or end up in a serious long term relationship. You would know that if you were actually aware of what the community is like lol. The over the hump ones who already have kids or are too old just give a honest analysis of female behaviour and provide that information for men to "go their own way" with. Mostly it is self improvement and getting men to focus on more important things rather than chasing pussy or just discussing human behaviour. You don't know much about what you criticize. MGTOW would not say don't have a relationship and mostly turn young men out after giving them a more honest view of reality and higher self respect to pick better women. MOST end up in a serious relationship and out of the community