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[–] • 11 pts

It's reactionary. It's weak.

Some guys have been thru the meat grinder that is our legal system, so I don't blame them. But, it's still weakness.

  • We are only strong as multi generational family units.
  • So, their first step was to kill the multi generational family units and introduce the concept of the 'nuclear family'.
  • Then, they killed that by glorifying the single mother, and by screwing men in the court systems.
  • Now men are signaling defeat and walking away.

It takes a strong man to lead with his convictions. To attract the right woman and to lead the family unit. To take risks. To fight against the current of sewage that we know as our current society. To raise strong children who value virtue and integrity.

Sadly, most of the MGTOW men were raised by single women. So, they never got a chance to see strong male leadership.

[–] • 6 pts

>We are only strong as multi generational family units.

This guy gets it.

[–] • 2 pts

Yup. And these guys aren't even trying to become better. They are walking away or demanding women to want less from their men.

99% of the red pill, mra, and mgtow is complaining with no serious action taken to make men into warriors to fight back.

[–] • 1 pt

you obviously don't know anything about them.

The whole community is essentially self improvement, looking for good women, and having standards for them and the self. The ones who have walked away are usually older and it is not "walking away" it is "going your own way" so they don't tell young men they should avoid women just what their instinct and behaviour is actually like so they go in knowing what is up.

They do take serious action and fight back. Many younger men go on dates and just say no to whores or sub par women burning them, which puts more social pressure on these women to behave more appropriate.

Women in the mgtow community usually want a good man and are afraid of the men who would use them and turn them into the low value women that leads these men to end up single despite looking for a good woman.

Many have had bad experiences and just don't want to be burned again so knowing the habits of modern women and red flags is what they get from it.

Mostly it is like here, a place where people can be honest.

[–] • 0 pt

You sound like a feminists that says other feminists don't represent what you believe, but are still feminists. The underlying connection between all this nonsense is exactly what I said. Men complaining like a bunch of bitches.

[–] • -1 pt

So, you are saying that MGTOW is pro marriage? I find that hard to believe based on the articles, podcasts, discussions that I've consumed.

My understanding is that most MGTOW proponents don't believe it is possible to have a equitable marriage under the current legal framework, so they broadly reject marriage as an institution.

[–] • 0 pt

your assumptions are not based in reality. No most are not single womens kids.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

Anything that ends your bloodline is gay.

[–] • 0 pt

also a significant number of mgtows have children and have just been divorce raped

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Your previous argument then supports late term abortion of those children. Mgtow is SO stupid. Fuck your fantasies.

[–] • 2 pts

you are free to go raise tyrone or get divorce raped and pay for a tyrone after she fucks you financially. Go back to onlyfans and simp all day if that is how you feel. You are free to go your own way

[–] • 0 pt

They would rather support superior genes and sacrifice themselves to that end than accept a sub par female mostly.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

FUCK every altruistic martyr. Give your resources to someone who wants to be here.

[–] • 0 pt

that is exactly what they would do except they would give resources to men who have women whose genes are more suitable to keep rather than some jewed out whore who had a gangbang and aborted tyrone or put him into foster care

[–] • 3 pts

Both. The guys who say never go for women again are the cucks. The ones saying go improve yourself before getting a woman are based.

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

It's a genocide weapon utilizing information warfare and targetted advertizing. It aids the depopulation goal. Compare the ethnicities of the men encouraged to go their own way, in contrast to the overwhelming volume of advertisements encouraging interracial coupling.

[–] • 0 pt

minorities are over represented in MGTOW communities. They also don't encourage going your own way merely explore human behaviour and promote knowing before going in and knowing what to watch out for in red flags.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

Acceptance of any part of your last comment is evidence that the information warfare is effective and this weapon is working.

tl;dr: make lots of white babies. Perpetuate your ancestors' culture and ideals. All other messages are information weapons against you.

[–] • 0 pt

Most mgtows would agree with that. Promoting healthy culture and ideals and knowing how to pick good worthy genetic and cultural mothers is what most mgtows are up to. Most mgtows are pretty agreeable to the white babbies specifically part as well

[–] • 2 pts

It's causing a crisis among the feminists that think they can get anything they want because vagina!

[–] • 1 pt

Short version: it’s judaism.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

It's a jewish honeypot for white males with physical or mental disabilities. They jerk off all day on porn and make posts about how much they hate females. That's all they do really.

[–] • 0 pt

that is the incels or mra's not the mgtows. Most mgtows hate jews and what they have done to western women

[–] • 1 pt

No. I mean if you go to the controlled opposition reddit version of course it is lol.

MGTOW are aware of facts and not ignorant of reality. The community is mostly men who have checked out from relationships but it is more like a modern equivalent to monkhood and they pursue other things more and still explore human behaviour and relationship dynamics honestly. Most are pretty "based" on other issues like race and jews et cetera.

The commentators on party platforms obviously have to play nice on party politics but like a good traditional "expert" they stick to their topic, that is human behaviour and relations.

Most of the community are youth are just more selective with women and not interested in whores. For most the bar is pretty low. The older gentlemen often maintain non romantic relations with some women or they check out but they are mostly far past the prime anyway.

Essentially it is just men with standards in a market of rotten apples who would like a good one to eat but can't find it. They are not pretending the market is fine and are honest which has resulted in most being pretty open to becoming based or plain based.

[–] • 1 pt

MGTOW doesn't address the main problem of men acting like spoiled boys, unwilling to take personal responsibility. A man raises a family. If you have not raised a family, are raising a family, or seeking to raise a family, you're not a real man, you're still a boy in a man's body.

[–] • 0 pt

Like all movements it has cucks and chads.

Most women are children mentally, they have never had real responsibility, independence, nor consequence, they have never been relied on or been responsible for anyone else (other than their "furbabies" /eyeroll), they work meaningless and fruitless jobs where they can be replaced in a day, they produce nothing in all their "customer service" or "administrative duties" jobs, they are glorified cashiers or secretaries and never feel truly valuable as they have never actually increased the companies value in any meaningful way.

So the cuck MGTOW. He has little going for him but needs to feel part of a community. He is incapable of getting a quality woman as he is a victim of the jew. The jew through social marxism has taught men that being more effeminate is good, believing this the only women that will have him are also the victims of the jew, women who believe they want a "nu-male," spoiler alert they don't fucking want that and will leave with the first Chad to show them attention. Leaving the cuckMGTOW alone and bitter.

the "Chad". Typically has the "stuff" (job, house, 401k, disposible income, etc) Has dated / engaged / wed one or a few jew tricked women and did not enjoy the experience. Has also fucked a few married / engaged / non-single women that were with other men. Thus his experiences with dating are all women are shit people and decides women are only temporary.

Ultimately the problem is that those men believe that women are their equals and as such should be held to the same standards as men. Women are children and you should not expect them to make decision on logic or rational, they make decisions off of emotion and emotions are fleeting so if she is mad she is more likely to do something bad, if she is happy she is more likely to do good. If she feels insecure she is more likely to choose security, if she feels like she's in a rut she is more likely to seek adventure/freedom.

IMO Cuck / Chad is not the dichotomy to place on the MGTOW movement as it can be either. If you want to try and qualify is as either good/bad or helpful/harmful then yea, its REALLY fucking bad.

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Ok you obviously have limited knowledge/ understanding of the group. There is no expectation or treating of women as equals lol.

[–] • 0 pt

if you never expect them to be logical adults, they can't disappoint you. Just like I don't expect a nigger or jew to be generous of have empathy.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

Cucked beyond all explanation.

e: This thread is exceptionally pilled. This is amazing to see.

[–] • -1 pt

cucked by refusing to be cucked? the men just don't want sub par women or to be divorce raped or to raise a tyrone. They mostly just see the behaviour of women and are honest about it ( and specifically most western women)

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

by refusing to be cucked.

No. By refusing to be a man who can and does control his woman. The amount of women that are even remotely like what (((reddit))) (((twitter))) and (((MSM))) says they are like is less than 1%. That isn't to say many are trad yet, but the significant vast majority aren't even remotely like those that you're so fucking scared of because you refuse to be a man.

Note: this is not about being alpha. That's muh unrealistic standard. This is about meeting the base criteria for being a man.

but but but but but muh divorce raped!!!!

Divorce happens so frequently because the "male" in the relationship isn't a man and that's it. He's cucked to himself, jerks off to porn, doesn't sustain an emotional, intellectual, physical, and sexual relationship with the woman. And that causes the woman to be an obnoxious cunt and fill those necessary roles elsewhere. That's biology for the female sex. It is NOT biology for the male sex to be what I described about.

So yes. Stop being a fucking cuck to jewish control and women will flock to you.

or to raise a tyrone.

White women aren't attracted to niggers. So the insanely extreme unlikeliness for that to happen where you bring it up like it's common shows me who (((you))) are.

jewesses on the other hand. Well they can't get enough of niggers.

[–] • -1 pt

lol you get your understanding of mgtow from "(((reddit))) (((twitter))) and (((MSM)))" and then word salad based on that strawman. You clearly conflate incel with mgtow. MGTOW isn't fucking concerned or needing help with getting women to flock or mens issues; That is incels, puas, and mras.

look. MGTOWs generally get women or end up in a serious long term relationship. You would know that if you were actually aware of what the community is like lol. The over the hump ones who already have kids or are too old just give a honest analysis of female behaviour and provide that information for men to "go their own way" with. Mostly it is self improvement and getting men to focus on more important things rather than chasing pussy or just discussing human behaviour.

You don't know much about what you criticize. MGTOW would not say don't have a relationship and mostly turn young men out after giving them a more honest view of reality and higher self respect to pick better women. MOST end up in a serious relationship and out of the community

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