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Good traits get amplified in the population, bad traits get reduced or eliminated.

There are many ways to go about it. A civilization automatically exerts a kind of genic stress on a population, some people have more kids and some don't reproduce at all.

You could just pay high IQ, non-psychopaths, that are healthy to have more kids.

You could sterilize people under a certain IQ and who have genetic diseases, something the USA used to do and the Jews objected to because they're actually a low IQ and genetically damaged group.

And there are lots of options in between like sterilizing people after a certain number of children depending on their IQ or other criteria.

The Jewish argument of eugenics is that it's inhumane somehow, but I think having people die because they're deformed or can't take care of themselves, or growing the numbers of defective people until society collapses is less humane.

Eugenics also nicely addresses the issue of unrestrained population growth and decline since you can match the number of births to the amount of people your civilization requires.

I also really want to see what humanity, or the White population since I don't like the idea of picking the direction other races go for them, can become with eugenics.

How smart can Whites become?

How fit can Whites become?

How attractive can Whites become?

How long can Whites come to live without medical assistance?

And I do realize that gene editting is just around the corner, assuming the West doesn't collapse in on itself because it can't handle the basics of what a country is and it screwed over the White Millennials and later Whites to the point they want to take everyone out with them. The idea of editing genomes and switching out body parts is a wonderful day dream that I hope becomes reality.

I also recognize there are problems with gene editing that might take time to resolve, incompatible combinations of genes that make editing a little more complicated than just switching out one gene for another.

It makes sense to start where we are with the tools we have available, and eugenics is something we can do right now.

Good traits get amplified in the population, bad traits get reduced or eliminated. There are many ways to go about it. A civilization automatically exerts a kind of genic stress on a population, some people have more kids and some don't reproduce at all. You could just pay high IQ, non-psychopaths, that are healthy to have more kids. You could sterilize people under a certain IQ and who have genetic diseases, something the USA used to do and the Jews objected to because they're actually a low IQ and genetically damaged group. And there are lots of options in between like sterilizing people after a certain number of children depending on their IQ or other criteria. The Jewish argument of eugenics is that it's inhumane somehow, but I think having people die because they're deformed or can't take care of themselves, or growing the numbers of defective people until society collapses is less humane. Eugenics also nicely addresses the issue of unrestrained population growth and decline since you can match the number of births to the amount of people your civilization requires. I also really want to see what humanity, or the White population since I don't like the idea of picking the direction other races go for them, can become with eugenics. How smart can Whites become? How fit can Whites become? How attractive can Whites become? How long can Whites come to live without medical assistance? And I do realize that gene editting is just around the corner, assuming the West doesn't collapse in on itself because it can't handle the basics of what a country is and it screwed over the White Millennials and later Whites to the point they want to take everyone out with them. The idea of editing genomes and switching out body parts is a wonderful day dream that I hope becomes reality. I also recognize there are problems with gene editing that might take time to resolve, incompatible combinations of genes that make editing a little more complicated than just switching out one gene for another. It makes sense to start where we are with the tools we have available, and eugenics is something we can do right now.

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[–] • 12 pts

I oppose it. Man playing god is hubris. Social engineering eg Covid rules tend to dystopia. Engineering humans just sounds like it could end badly one way or another.

I'd rather just end welfare for a start. I prefer social and genetic Darwinism. I would consider any one faction, race or society using eugenics to be pursuing a form of social Darwinism in competition with other factions/races/countries but would not hitch my wagon to that horse personally.

I'd rather be free range in chaos then engineered to suit constrictive social forms

[–] • 3 pts

Slam dunk.

Natural selection needs to be a natural process if you don't want a bunch of unintended consequences down the line.

Go buy a purebred dog that doesn't wind up with massive joint problems. It frequently can't be done.

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That's because these dogs are actual monstrosities. Original dogs were wolves.

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Purebreds have problems because of inbreeding, which is easily avoided.

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Ending welfare while our economy is fake and winners and losers are picked by a foreign occupying power probably isn't a good idea.

What happens when White people are denied any employment by the companies the Jews nepotistically take over and there is no welfare.

Granted, I've applied for welfare and didn't get it, I suspect solely because I'm a White male, so welfare doesn't do me any good at all.

Technology means that the USA labor demand will always be smaller than the population going forward, to eliminate ways that currency is injected into the system would cause population collapse.

The only real expenditures in the USA over the past 40 years has been producing cars, servicing the utilities, servicing housing, and food production and distribution. The technology though requires almost no one to be involved with that and so the US White population has collapsed without the necessary injection of capital to keep people alive and reproducing.

Our economic and demographic situation can't be boiled down to just that obviously, there are many factors.

[–] • 3 pts

We don't have a lack of work that needs doing. We have a lack of leadership to direct people into being socially and economically productive.

The Federal government is growing like cancer and its doing so by wielding massive power via the central banks. Pouring phony money into pork, pet projects and control of people.

We need sound money and limited government. By sharing the petrodollar you become joined to people you despise because it is politicized money. It can be printed out of thin air and spent on whatever (((they))) choose to spread degeneracy and learned helplessness

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Work in the USA means putting stuff on shelves for people to buy or sitting behind a desk doing nothing productive all day for the most part.

If it were me, I would restructure the economy around technological and scientific research instead of the nothingness that the USA's economy is currently built around.

Pouring phony money into pork

What do you have against pork? Are you a Semite and can't eat it? I love pork.

We need sound money and limited government.

We don't absolutely need sound money, but the fiat hasn't been used for the interests of the nation, but the interests of the foreign Jewish population occupying it; so fiat has to go to break their stranglehold on the West. If the Jews were gone and multi-ethnicism was dismantled, we could keep fiat granted the West had White central planners with their objectives straight and the intelligence to realize it using something as complicated as a floating currency system.

We have a lack of leadership to direct people into being socially and economically productive.

You're certainly right about that. Jewish nepotism in the Western governments and media has made these important institutions incompetent to the point of inevitable collapse. Jewish intelligence is a just a marketing scam of ethnic self promotion; they actually have a lower IQ than the average White, by and large, and it's a wide margin, something like 15 IQ points on average. The average IQ in Israel is 96. The average IQ in the USA which is half non-White is 101, I think, so the White average IQ is somewhere around 110 I imagine.

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I prefer social and genetic Darwinism

It's how we came to be, when natural greatness wasn't squashed by governments.

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Do the opposite of Welfare. Tax breaks for fit people with large families that score high on IQ tests. That'd be eugenics.

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. Social engineering eg Covid rules tend to dystopia

Look around.