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Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

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I agree. UBI sounds good at first until you start thinking about the consequences later on. Socialism sounds good at first until you realize it's just tyranny with a nice sounding name.

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Owning the means of production is tyranny?

[–] [deleted] 10 pts

That's capitalism.

Both of you sit down and shut the fuck up.

National Socialism is the only way forward.

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Capitalism is where a few own the means of production, not the workers.

They exploit YOU to steal the value created.

Wake up.

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Oh you think socialism means you, the people, own the means of production? That's cute. There were people who thought that before. They mostly starved to death.

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Literal definition.

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That's what it means, literally. Ask anyone that works at my cooperative what it means, they will tell you the same.

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"owning"

Haaaaaaaah.

I think you mean stealing!

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Nope. Show me how the government owns the means of production in the US.

It is the few that own it here.

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Yes. "The people" down own shit, the government does.

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Government is an abstract concept to hide the very real people in control. Very similar to derivatives in finance where toxic assets are hidden so people don't see what they are made of. Criminals love obfuscating things this way. Shell corporations are a favorite tactic. These are similar to ETFs of ETFs, in finance. The idea is to layer the real perpetrators behind multiple layers making it difficult to know who is in control.

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The government does not own the means of production. Wtf?

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"Socialism" is a friendly label for tyranny. The power structure is a pyramid with corporations at the top and us deplorables at the bottom.

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False, in socialism YOU. Own the company.

How is that bad?

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Yes. Also called centralizing the means of production or consolidating it to the control of one entity.

I have never heard of such power NOT corrupt anyone.