Because without you no money is "made"
How do you devalue yourself so easily,wage slave?
Because without you no money is "made"
The company existed 120 years before I was even born. They seem to be pretty good at making money without me
Your argument has merit, but his does too. The magic word is "negotiation," which two parties engage in to determine which rights and responsibilities they have when they enter into a contract. Owning the means of production and working to produce are mutually beneficial, so there should be a balance. An employer should have reasonable control over his property, and his employees should be reasonably reimbursed for their service.
As an employee you can't just see yourself as an individual. You're also part of a workforce, which goes back 120 years (in your case). The company wouldn't be very good at making money without that workforce. Both you and the company are part of society, the smalles unit of which, the family, is at the start of that production chain producing able workers. That company owes your parents, and by extension, owes society. BIG TIME!
So finally, parttaking in society comes with rights and duties, and nobody ideally is a slave, and just as ideally, nobody has complete control of the means of production without taking on a responsibility for those that produce.
EDIT: Scrap that part about the other guy having a point. He's an idiot.
Which one? I'm in a maze of threads that keep reiterating the same points and now I'm lost
As an employee you can't just see yourself as an individual. You're also part of a workforce, which goes back 120 years (in your case). The company wouldn't be very good at making money without that workforce. Both you and the company are part of society, the smallest unit of which, the family, is at the start of that production chain producing able workers. That company owes your parents, and by extension, owes society. BIG TIME!
Don't you as an individual owe that too, as it gave you the ability to exist and work? Since you voluntarily enter a relationship with the company, they only owe you as much as you agree on. If you agree for them to underpay you, you have yourself to blame.
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