The Great Awakening migration could be used as a great example of a migration gone wrong. I am honestly glad to see putt engaged again, but his absenteeism is why that migration was a shit storm. He finally stepped in, but too little too late type of thing.
That is all it will take to make poal a thing. One major migration.
So what differentiates Poal from Voat? That is the key. Why choose Poal over Voat? Commonalities - Both have usernames but can lurk too - Both use points system - Both are similar to reddit system of subreddit/subverse/subpoal - Both have issues with trolls
So what advantage does poal REALLY have over Voat? - TWO active admins who can and will take appropriate actions when needed. This is critical for a mass migration as problems will arise, likely unforeseen problems. - Non hostile existing userbase (ie no SBBH, PV down vote brigades ready to "welcome" refugees) - Regularly updated canaries which reinforce commitment to free speech (when was Voat's last updated?) - Clearly outlined user agreement / terms of service, updated regularly (when was Voat's last updated?)
That's all I can think of, but as Reddit continues #Banout2018, there is an opportunity there to welcome refugees. But means poalers would need to integrate into targeted communities NOW and get the word out BEFORE the next wave of bans. Not my forte, but sharing my ideas.
if poal were to grow, this is probably the best example I've seen of an idea how.
There is the counter point too. Migrations that large would totally take over Poal. Like they did to Voat years ago.
I would do everything I could to make sure that doesn't happen. No echo chambers if I can help it.
Like PMYB2 said. This is probably the best idea so far.
The Great Awakening migration could be used as a great example of a migration gone wrong.
Continuing the conversion were had below, maybe this is exactly the problem: migration. Voat had several influxes of users, always in great quantifies, almost always clashing with the anterior userbase. The first migration to whoaverse was caused by the downvote counter being hid in reddit. Despite generalized rejection and the most downvoted announcement ever, admins kept throwing bullshit at our faces and implemented it. We where not jettisoned, we decided to leave, and our integration in whoaverse was just natural. There was nobody there, of course, but the fact is that we were not a circlejerk, the only common ground was the rejection of reddit's admins bullshit. The migrations caused by expulsion are different, a great number of users is playing into their little circlejerk, or safespace, or whatever name, and they just go to a new place. Obviously, they want to stay like they were, they want the fun to continue. Changing sucks, both sides. Now, the old ones are bothered with all the noise and people stepping on their flowers, and the new ones just want to do what they are used to. Solution? I don't see one. In my perfect utopia, growth occurs slowly, with new people integrating to the place.
I agree that organic growth done moderately will be a better userbase than migration growth.
Damn you were on Voat way before me! I hit it around the gamergate /r/conspiracy dramas in March before the yuge migrations I mentioned earlier. Man, Voat had a great userbase back then with people really putting in time on coding, hacking, tweaking the site.
But you know thinking back more, the fatpeoplehate migration actually went pretty well. Admins were on the ball and after the first couple days of FPH taking over /v/all they went private. Even the servers got hosed but putt / atko were on it although IIRC it took about 1-2 weeks to all get sorted.
But FPH is still there and do their own thing. Same with the niggers crew although they did push /v/all in a new direction after their migration unlike FPH. I think of all the migrations FPH was probably the best and would have been much better if the servers could have scaled faster.
Voat is heavily censored via CCP restrictions, so far Poal is not. Free speech is not a bad joke here.
Also the voat brigades who will "set anyone straight" who steps out of line.
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