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My father and I share a family plan and he has a military discount which makes the monthly not so bad. He's got the X , I have an Android phone. I recently read somewhere that software version 17 is coming out which isn't compatible with the X. Will he be forced to upgrade or can he just blow this off until he's done enough research to move to a different phone. I did some light research about moving him off Apple to an Android phone but then I was noticing that some of these Android phones won't work unless you update your plan to a 5G plan. I find this bullshit because then we lose our unlimited internet and have to go to some 20 gig per month crap. So I guess my question is if he does want to continue with Apple what phone can he go up to that doesn't require him to be on a 5G plan mandatorily? Or is that requirement just an Android thing?

My father and I share a family plan and he has a military discount which makes the monthly not so bad. He's got the X , I have an Android phone. I recently read somewhere that software version 17 is coming out which isn't compatible with the X. Will he be forced to upgrade or can he just blow this off until he's done enough research to move to a different phone. I did some light research about moving him off Apple to an Android phone but then I was noticing that some of these Android phones won't work unless you update your plan to a 5G plan. I find this bullshit because then we lose our unlimited internet and have to go to some 20 gig per month crap. So I guess my question is if he does want to continue with Apple what phone can he go up to that doesn't require him to be on a 5G plan mandatorily? Or is that requirement just an Android thing?

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He doesn't have to upgrade hardware if he doesn't want too. The phone will still work, it just won't get updates.

The bigger problem I see is has he paid, or paying, for any apps/subscriptions.

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I don't think so. At least nothing apple related.

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It's not an android or apple thing, that's a carrier thing.

I doubt there's an Android device out there that "requires" 5G in order to work, otherwise it would be useless in a good part of the world. Again, this is probably a carrier enforced thing. Verizon?

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Yep we're on Verizon. Believe it or not the family plan hasn't been that bad. The veterans discount took off about $30 a month. I still think they're ungodly overpriced. And Verizon's answer to that is a subpar budget phone company called Visible. I was on that for 2 years and give it five out of 10.

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Verizon can be bad about forcing you to go to certain plans for certain phones.

I'm on T-Mo and have an apple device (yeah I know, but I got tired of fighting android.) I also have an older iPad that's still on 12, no problem with it's cell connection, and you don't have to upgrade - you'll just lose functionality over time as application vendors abandon older versions and finally, as Safari won't work because of changes to the web.

Verizon, on the other hand, may be the evil overlord and say "No more for you!"

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This happened to my Samsung S8. The screen turned pink and the whole lower left side stopped working. As far as apps I lost 3 of my banking ones.

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Problem is that it's apple's policy since 2 decades now; upgrade or die. If you're looking for a brand that gives you the maximum liberty in term of what you install and when, apple is anything but the right choice

Now I wouldn't recommend you a linux phone, because last time I checked they were expensive and sub par compared to android equivalents... Needless to mention that as most things linux, it's for DIY type of people, not really intended for "tech dumbs", without any disrespect I mean you have people that aren't into tech at all, they need to be fully assisted for everything even the most basic stuffs, it's like that

Overall I think it's better to dump apple, because you'll always run into special issues/compatibility issues and you'll always feel prisoner of their echo system in terms of software policies

>I did some light research about moving him off Apple to an Android phone but then I was noticing that some of these Android phones won't work unless you update your plan to a 5G plan.

Well some, not all... It's a trade off I guess

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I think it's best course of action is going into the store and being like I want to keep my current plan I need a phone that will fall within that parameter. He's old and kind of retarded so he'll have a hard time trying to figure out Android but it's better than being forced into another fucking Apple phone. His big thing is not losing FaceTime and I'm like Pop there's about 10 different programs you can use that'll do away with FaceTime.