i don't disagree but I never said anything about violence. my term renaissance implies we are being held back intentionally by those in control and if we were to be freed from that control, which has a lot to do with taxes, we can see the US, the West and possibly the world flourish, not just a change of systems. i agree with your second paragraph. the US could become a lightning rod for the worlds innovators to come and thrive, again leading to what I believe could be a second renaissance.