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[–] • 6 pts

Tyranny is always justified with visions of a utopian future and the words, "the ends justify the means".

[–] • 1 pt

We're from the government, we're here to help.

It's for your safety.

Think of the children.

You wouldn't want to be know as that guy would you?

[–] • -2 pt

Preserving the existence of our people and a future for our children does justify the means.

[–] • 3 pts

Congratulations, you're a useful idiot

[–] • -1 pt (edited )

No... we do what we must for our people you self-righteous boomer. Half-measures and refusing to acknowledge the problem and trying to "be nice" are why we're in this spot to begin with.

[–] • 0 pt

"the ends justify the means" makes sense in isolation.

In this case the means are useless, not to mention rotten to the core. Ya fuckin troll

[–] • 0 pt

If our grandchildren have no future, no one will judge us for failing to defend them. Saying that the ends do not justify the means when it comes to survival is the biggest boomer-ism I've ever heard. If we don't lose because we're going to play by some useless arbitrary set of rules, the result is not that we are good people, the result is that we're dead. You retard.

Germany learned that the hard way. If you lose, your enemy will just create a history of crimes to justify their atrocities. If you win, you can do the same. Victory matters above everything.

[–] • 3 pts

For the time being, the app requires you to activate it and also turn your bluetooth radio on. I'm very annoyed that Google is hiding the installation of this spyware. If I tried to install any app I wrote on Android devices, Google would kick me out of their ecosystem permanently.

[–] • 2 pts

Absolutely.

https://www.legalbites.in/abuse-dominant-position-competition-law/

>The abuse of dominant position is one of the ways of interfering with competition in the marketplace. Abuse is stated to occur when an enterprise or group of enterprises use its dominant position in the relevant market in an exclusionary land in an exploitative manner.

...

[–] • 1 pt

For the time being, the app requires you to activate it and also turn your bluetooth radio on.

Because when that switch is off, it means Bluetooth is actually off. Want to bet this is like their location services and if the GPS/Bluetooth is off it is just using WiFi and cell tower data?

[–] • 0 pt

If I tried to install any app I wrote on Android devices, Google would kick me out of their ecosystem permanently.

100% false. You can install whatever the fuck you want. Just check "install from all sources" or whatever and blammo! You can install things from their .apk files. Doesn't need to be part of any jewgle ecosystem at all.

For the time being, the app requires you to activate it and also turn your bluetooth radio on.

So... you trust jewgle to not surreptitiously pull data from wherever it wants at all times? You're a fool.

[–] • 1 pt

Do I trust Google? Only to spy on me. I trust hey do that. I trust they have back doors for the Alphabet agencies to exploit. I trust Google to sell my location data, my browsing data and to lie to me. Yes, I trust Google for that.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

Okay... Android is open source. jewgle can be removed from android completely. There are a number of custom roms with ZERO google ANYTHING on them.

hurrrr but android IS google

Not really.

ee; Well. "android" is, but the OS isn't, it's FOSS. It's base is linux.

[–] • 2 pts

crApple has done the same thing.

[–] • 1 pt

Really? Interesting. The corproate plot tickens...

[–] • 1 pt

If you search for covid under settings in iOS it will show you "exposure notifications." You can turn it off, but not uninstall it as it is not a separate app.

[–] • 0 pt

Is it on or off by default?

[–] • 0 pt

interesting

wat? How is this interesting? They're the same fucking company.

jewgle and apple are different!!!

Okay.

[–] • 1 pt

That's what you get for living in a liberal shithole.

[–] • 1 pt

Google = Enemy of the People

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Yep. I have this happen to me. If you have a rooted phone, you can freeze it with Titanium Backup.

[–] • 0 pt

my phone is 5 years old, running Android 5, rooted, deGoogled, and all my apps are installed from .apk files from Aptoide, APKPure, and APKMirror.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

If you get hacked, most of the time what the attacker wants is for you to not notice anything at any given point for as long as possible. The point isn't to destroy your machine as fast as possible, the point is to exploit it for as long as possible in the case of a botnet for instance, or in the case of simply spying on you. Of course there are exceptions, such as ransomwares for instance which lock your machine ultimately.

You're lucky nobody tried to exploit the dozens (if not hundreds) of known security flaws on your OS, that's all.

Security updates are like the safety belt in your car. 99.99% of the time you can do without it. But the 0.01% of the time you actually need it, it makes the difference between life and eath, except of course if you run into a concrete wall at 300mph, in that case you're fucked no matter what, but you get the idea.

[–] • 0 pt

No one is targeting Android 5 at this point. And, like I said, I kept Google services as minimal as possible, and have a TWRP backup that I reflash often.

[–] • 0 pt

The question isn't whether Android 5 is the main target or not in the hacker "community", if there is even such a thing.

You are the target, first and foremost. And right now, in this thread, you gave critical information to a potential attacker (let's say a crazy leftist hunting nazytrumpsupporters); You gave away the fact that you don't perform security updates, and you gave away the version of the outdated OS you use...

Now, the "attacker", can also very well be a relative, like your kid, your wife, it's not necessarily some shady guy wearing a hoodie in a basement far far away

Now you do what you want, I'm not here to change your mind, I'm just arguing for the sake of it at this point

[–] • 0 pt

Figure out what applications on your phone download and install these updates

Download a firewall app.

Block internet access for those apps. As well as all the other bloatware shit on your phone if you arent comfortable rooting and uninstalling.

[–] • 0 pt

As I understand it, it is basically integrated to the OS itself, it's kind of like any other feature such as your screen brightness

"Google issued a statement to 9to5Google, which does not addressing the claims that the app stealth installed on phones.

The statement reads:

We have been working with the Massachusetts Department of Public Health to allow users to activate the Exposure Notifications System directly from their Android phone settings. This functionality is built into the device settings and is automatically distributed by the Google Play Store, so users don’t have to download a separate app. COVID-19 Exposure Notifications are enabled only if a user proactively turns it on. Users decide whether to enable this functionality and whether to share information through the system to help warn others of possible exposure."

[–] • 1 pt

To an extent, yes. But when this was first going around I already had auto updates blocked.

When I bought a new phone last year, before I even hooked it up to the internet, I installed a firewall, removed shit apps and made sure no auto updates would be happening.

Proudly have no covid BS on any of my phones.

If you already have it, which most do, reset your phone to factory specs and do not upgrade the OS. The features are not important anyway. Most phones work better with the OS they ship with and were designed to use.

[–] • 0 pt

Yeah but what about security updates? Not that you automatically end up hacked every time you miss a security update, but you get the idea, that's a tad "problematic"

[–] • 0 pt

Shocker, your cell carrier knows pretty much exactly where you are.

[–] • 0 pt

Google isn't a phone carrier, that's the problem here

[–] • 1 pt

It was more an analogy that if you're using a cellphone, someone on the other end knows where you are.

Google just got caught exploiting it.

[–] • 1 pt

They got caught exploiting it without users consent, they got caught installing it, a spyware, without users consent, en masse, and there's no way to remove it, by design

Nobody is allowed do that via the appstore except google. It's bordering on abuse of dominant position.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Also not new to smartphones or even GPS. They knew what tower you were connecting to, in fact the sms texts were merely riding on the back of the check-in to tower that the phones were doing all along to maintain your active service connection to the carrier. So yeah they have always known your approximate location.