Welcome • User Guide
ToS • Privacy • Canary
Donate • Bugs • License

©2026 Poal.co

1.2K

Firefox is the best web browser i know of as far as it capabilities and potential for privacy hardening, in part due to the , and understand that this

i think there's some 'misthink' among some of us in that using Firefox correlates to supporting Mozilla and that absolutely does not have to be the case, in fact quite the opposite - one can easily use the browser without supporting Mozilla and gain a substantial benefit with regard to protecting privacy

Mozilla is fucked, no doubt - beyond the politically correct/pro faggot bullshit, the 'free speech' advocates at corporate are perusing ways to literally censor the web, along with all of the rest of big tech

i hate the company, but i still use Firefox without giving Moz a dime

they make their millions (literally) from their many deals with many unethical companies, primarily search engines like google, so when you use the default Firefox search plugins, they get paid, simple as that

fortunately using their product without them benefiting is quite easy; basically you can just disable all of the built-in search plugs and add your own ... there's more to it than that, but that's the major part of it

for more info, and to understand why i suggest using FF from a privacy perspective, - among those articles you'll find 2 comprehensive configuration guides as well as info on search engines

Firefox is the best web browser i know of as far as it capabilities and potential for privacy hardening, in part due to the [arkenfox user.js project](https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js), and understand that this [isn't coming from a Firefox fanboy](https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/the-mozilla-monster/) i think there's some 'misthink' among some of us in that using Firefox correlates to supporting Mozilla and that absolutely does not have to be the case, in fact quite the opposite - one can easily use the browser without supporting Mozilla and gain a substantial benefit with regard to protecting privacy Mozilla is fucked, no doubt - beyond the politically correct/pro faggot bullshit, the 'free speech' advocates at corporate are perusing ways to literally censor the web, along with all of the rest of big tech i hate the company, but i still use Firefox without giving Moz a dime they make their millions (literally) from their many deals with many unethical companies, primarily search engines like google, so when you use the default Firefox search plugins, they get paid, simple as that fortunately using their product without them benefiting is quite easy; basically you can just disable all of the built-in search plugs and add your own ... there's more to it than that, but that's the major part of it for more info, and to understand why i suggest using FF from a privacy perspective, [go here](https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/firefox/) - among those articles you'll find 2 comprehensive configuration guides as well as info on search engines

(post is archived)

You are currently inside a comment thread.
Click here to see all the comments (48).
[–] • 2 pts

My impression was Brave was a good browser to utilize. Is that still the case?

Emphatically no, Brave has made far too many evil decisions to sell its users out, according to this web page... look at the long section on Brave :

https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html

Remember , unlike firefox and a few other browsers, Brave has tons of closed source code and all the evil parts are in the closed section , historically.

Also Brave might suffer from this weeks Chrome drama (unknown) : https://poal.co/s/technology/315285

And Brave did in fact have TWO separate IP address leaks in less than 4 weeks : https://www.ghacks.net/2021/02/25/latest-brave-browser-update-fixes-tor-onion-dns-leak/

[–] • 0 pt

So what's the go to now?

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

In 90 days this might be the provable top choice for all desktop OSes :

https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/master/docs/platforms.md

Its working fine now, and attracting more developers.

Its just Chromium source code, with some niceties added, and some privacy added.

window, mac, linux, full source code

full COMPLETE source code up to date, not "held back longer and longer until its months between source code updates"

Google declared open war on Chromium source code for the first time, less than 4 weeks ago, so this is the obvious outcome... grass roots uprising

What that link offers :

ungoogled-chromium is Google Chromium, sans dependency on Google web services.

Disable functionality specific to Google domains (e.g. Google Host Detector, Google URL Tracker, Google Cloud Messaging, Google Hotwording, etc.)

This includes disabling Safe Browsing (snitching to google)

Block internal requests to Google at runtime. This feature is a fail-safe measure for the above, in case Google changes or introduces new components that our patches do not disable. This feature is implemented by replacing many Google web domains in the source code with non-existent alternatives ending in qjz9zk

Strip binaries from the source code!!!!!!!

Force all pop-ups into tabs

disable hiding "http://" or other nonsense

hundreds of little features many chromium forks also implement : https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium#feature-overview

[–] • 0 pt

Oh you finally discovered ungoogled chromium? That's great!

There's iridium also

[–] • 0 pt

>Remember , unlike firefox and a few other browsers, Brave has tons of closed source code and

And your entire OS, too...

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I agree with him about Brave browser being fucked. on the topic

[–] • 0 pt

apt install webext-ublock-origin-firefox firefox-esr -y

https://www.ghacks.net/2021/02/06/firefox-85-0-1-fixes-a-critical-security-issue-and-bugs/

>Firefox 85.0.1 and Firefox ESR 78.7.1 are security updates first and foremost. Mozilla patched a single security issue in both versions of the browser.

>The vulnerability, Buffer overflow in depth pitch calculations for compressed textures, has received the severity rating critical, the highest rating available. Mozilla notes that the issue affects Firefox running on Windows machines only, all other supported operating systems are not affected by the issue.

Safe and secure super easy

Too bad it tends to suck donkey balls regarding overall perfs, especially on launch, it's slow and heavy, and of course shitlib policies...

...

Before brave I used chromium, and you know why? Perfs

And one day chromium started to render shits sideways for god knows why, so I started to look elsewhere. Tried them all, literally. Settled on brave, mostly for the perfs and the funky features, and it's not ugly

Vivaldi is good, too, just not as good as brave

Fuck opera because opera, it kind of feels like another firefox

You have iridium, but since it's based on chromium, same deal, shits render sideways on my config

And ungoogled chromium evidently, but same deal

...

In the end it's the story of the lesser of two evil, no matter what you choose, it's still evil

Take the evil you know, that's all you can do

Also, qutebrowser ftw. In a decade.

https://qutebrowser.org/

It's vim style and it's deved by a one guy army

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Excellent resources.

Since the beginning, something about Brave and the advertising told me they were no good. Nice to have further confirmation