kind of like a prosperous country being re-normed to its invaders preferences eh? We have to design stupid now too. I cannot tell you how many times I've created a perfectly good page for inputting some simple business task, like verifying an address on a map, or selecting a type of equipment from a list based on a customer tier. Example: a form with name, address, one dropdown for a type of hardware, and a checkbox that says 'show unsupported hardware' meaning to allow the user to manuever our edge cases that use equipment that technically isnt supported for them (we dont want a call to the devs everytime they need to wiggle around this, so we let em do it, and it works) Now I just described a form that youve never seen. I am confident you could be given a set of data and enter it in without issue. None of the 10 year employees at my work can, I have explained it sooo many times, given pictures, video walkthrus where you can hear me laugh at how simple it is. They cannot do it. The whole world is full retard. I'm scared.