Right, the first commandment is a Muslim thing to these people.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under earth
Are you saying the Seventh Ecumenical Councils, the same councils whose Apostolic succession came from the Fathers and established the Canon, got it wrong when they reaffirmed the accept ion of icons?
I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Exodus 20:2-6. Graven image is tied to the words idol and false gods. In other words, a false image. What about a true image?
Moreover you shall make the tabernacle with ten curtains woven of fine linen thread, and blue and purple and scarlet yarn; with artistic designs of cherubim you shall weave them.
Exodus 26:1. Here is God commanding Moses to depict cherubim.
Are you saying the Seventh Ecumenical Councils, the same councils whose Apostolic succession came from the Fathers and established the Canon, got it wrong when they reaffirmed the accept ion of icons?
Yes. Westminster Confession:
All synods or councils since the apostles’ times, whether general or particular, may err, and many have erred; therefore they are not to be made the rule of faith or practice, but to be used as a help in both.
They erred on this. I'm not a "nothing living ever" prohibitionist, but we are not to try to depict any aspect of the Trinity in images or icons. I'm even wary of the Trinity diagrams (the "begotten of" "is not" "emerges from" ones) but I don't think those are prohibited -- just dangerously close.
What about a true image?
No man can make a true image of Jesus Christ, because no man can capture his divinity. An angel could look at Jesus and say, "he looks just like his Father." No one can make a picture or carving that captures that.
Exodus 26:1. Here is God commanding Moses to depict cherubim.
Cherubim aren't God.
God commanding Moses to depict cherubim is one thing, portraying His son as a musclebound dude apparently refusing to give himself up to crucifixion is something else entirely. The Almighty has the wisdom, power, and authority to make such a judgment, we are prone to make errors such as this one, and believing the traditions of the elders that the church councils could legitimately claim Apostolic succession.
Quit putting your panties in a knot. A depiction of the Son is not the Son. If it is a trespass, I will forgive it.
the traditions of the elders
Interesting choice of words. Regardless, the histories of Rome and Constantinople are tied to the Christian Church, and was percecuted and driven underground from (((pharisees))), then Emperor Nero until Emperor Galerius. Emperor Constantine was the first Christian Emperor, and called the Enumerical Council of Nicea.
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