irony so thick. Finists hate the idea that their value might be determined by their worth to a man. They use the term Incel to determine that a mans worth is determined by women and that's ok. They shame guys they have rejected by making fun of them because they rejected them to begin with, but they only do this cause they are mad that no one wanted to watch it to begin with. It's like when a girl says, "no you're not breaking up with me! I'm breaking up with you!, you loser, your such a loser cause I'm breaking up with you" A song comes to mind about not taking the effect and making it the cause- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STSkGSTMr9Y