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~30% efficiency, and around 40MJ of energy in a Kg of diesel. That means ~700hp/kg of fuel per hour, at a rate of 100kg per hour, the engine, fuel system, lubrication system, forced induction system, and cooling all take up space and add weight. Engines are the heaviest part of the car. With an electric car, the motor drive, and cooling system are more compact and energy dense than a combustion engine, the battery storage is not however. So there is a tradeoff.

If you could have the same energy density as fuel, and the energy density of electric motors, you'd have an ideal scenario. Hybrids try to get there, by using fuel to run electric motors and batteries. Turbine engines are prohibitively expensive, both to manufacture and design, so that wouldn't work on a car. It's a tricky scenario for sure.

I agree with Musk, that it's overall cheaper and more efficient if everyone gets their energy from the same source.

To put into perspective how expensive it is to design and manufacture turbine engines. One reasonably intelligent engineer will collect low 6 figure salary just to work on one compressor stage in a 5 stage compressor. He works with an entire team of people to make sure his tinkering doesn't fuck up everyone else's tinkering and vice versa.

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I love how you did not do the comparison using joules or watts hour, actually you did not compare them...

Speaking of engines, you "think" making an electric motor is easy ? think again.

Not only you have mechanical issues, you ALSO have power electricity issues (you did not have them with fuel engines)

I crunched the numbers and they are not pretty, at all.

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You can convert hp to watts, I love how you missed that, and think you got me. Fuel is dependent on flow rate, and mass, as the potential energy is fixed. So in order to compare energy over time, you simply have to know the fuel flow rate and the efficiency of your engine and the energy density of the fuel. With electric motors it's a bit more complex, because the flow rate is dependent on voltage, current and resistance. Efficiency is much higher with electric though, 80-90% efficiency is common.

As far as electric motors, I never said it was easy, if it were, any asshole could do it with a 3d printer. As an engineer I understand how engineering works, or I wouldn't be one.

With combustion engines you have other issues, I've been working on combustion engines for a long time. By comparison, my understanding of electric motors is limited. Combustion engines are much more my bread and butter, anything that deals with air really.

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I can fill a 500 mile tank with diesel in about 10 minutes.

I can recharge a 500 mile cell in about 24 hours.

My time is worth something.

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power multiply time is energy

watt is a power unit, horse power is a power unit, there has to be a way to go from one to the other So, a google search result in https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/power/hp-to-watt.html

you still are not doing the proper math, you probably did it some time ago and was scared of the result