> what I'm calling for is a return to sone of the times that existed in the past with regard to the sexes and their status in society. "they were meant to be property and owned as such by the greater of the sexes." i'm just reading your words, those thoughts and beliefs you have and hold. do you want to be with someone who lays at your feet or stands about heart level? what you fail to realize is that there were some valid reasons that led to the rise of feminism. please tell me your thoughts about how rape is handled in those countries that do treat women as chattel. do you think it's fair that a woman who is raped is the shame of a family honor? while i don't agree with modern feminism in the least, i can understand what prompted change. one female on here suggested that a woman who is being sexually harrassed overtly at work should find a new job, just leave, instead of fighting for what is right. now you will say that women should stay at home, bang pots in the kitchen. i hate to break it to you but it's a utopian dream that everyone will find his or her soulmate. sometimes a life of being single is in the cards. should women who can't find a good man for whatever reason, beg in the streets? do you have daughters?