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OP is twisting scripture to deceive.

It was voluntary, it was for a specific reason, and when that reason was fulfilled, it ended. Making it charity, not communism.

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Keep in mind that marxists also characterize the redistribution of wealth as "voluntary".

The liberals also reject the assertion that welfare, healthcare, and other government services are compelled by force as well (despite that it obviously is).

So ACTS would be not unusual coming out of the mouth of a marxist or liberal.

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It is voluntary. And if you choose not to donate then you're a capitalist pig so obviously you don't deserve to have stuff. Simple.

It is voluntary, and if you choose not to donate than you aren't a Christian and deserve to either get tortured forever or be deleted from existence.

Also, you will be tortured and killed as a heretic in the later times when Christians get a bit killy, unless of course you belong to the elites that can get away with not being so observant due to how they can simply buy their way into heaven (saying these guys are hypocrite and therefore not Christians is like saying Stalin and his party members living in luxury weren't communists for the same reason).

TBH, it's not the endorsement of charity that gets me, I don't mind much helping people out with what little I have, even without any orders to do so, the real problem is the glorification of the poor, like they are good people just for being impoverished and the rich are evil just for being wealthy, I get that so much from marxists, niggers are good because they are doing badly, and whites are evil because they are more fortunate, it's a stupid take.

Also the imploring of Jesus to take in foreigners into your house and home as being a good thing to do was also retarded, it's basically just "refugees welcome" pre-cultural marxism.

If Christianity is to survive, we need to cut out a lot of that communist shit from the Bible, retroactively, we need to decide that Jesus said none of that garbage.

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OP is a student of Saul Alinsky. "Make the enemy live up to his own book of rules."

Shlomo doesn't believe in the New Testament.

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That's ok. Parts of both new and old testament warn people that sow division what is going to happen to them long term.

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Let me "twist" some more for you to justify the treatment of the poor: Acts 4:32-35 - And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

Matthew 19:21 - Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Matthew 6:2-4 - Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

Luke 3:11-14 - And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.

1 John 3:17 - But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?

1 Corinthians 10:24 - Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor.

Proverbs 28:27 - Whoever gives to the poor will not want, but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse.

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The fundamental difference between communism and what you are saying is a Govt entity. God indeed tells us to take care of each other, help others, because happiness is helping others be happy too. The burden is on the individual to take care of our brothers and sisters, not the government.

That makes Christianity worse, the government is not all powerful or all knowing, and most of the time has very clear restrictions from just up and smiting the ass of someone who doesn't want to play ball.

Even when you factor in the IRS, the worst they do is jail you for not paying into dysgenic policies, God infects you diseases, or brings an enemy army upon you, or makes the earth swallow you up, or blasts you with lightning, or covers you with insects, or starves you to death, or sets you on fire.

and of course he chucks you into a torture pit of eternal suffering, or straight up deletes you from existence.

So being forced to give to charity by God should be seen as MORE compulsory than being forced to do so by government, not less.

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The entire point of these scriptures are for people to give from the heart, not by force. The church was originally designed to be a community shelter where like minded close knit communities could depend on it. This reality is no longer feasible in a selfish multicultural society without God at the center because you will always have morally deprived people who take full advantage of the system without a care for their neighbors.

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So, have you done these things or are you being a hypocrite?

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there's another one about not bragging about it, right?

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Great, and we should all strive to do so... ourselves, voluntarily. The Bible does not call on you to use the violent power of the state to force your neighbor to do these things.

If you are posting these verses because you believe them, you do them, and you would encourage others to do them, then I would respect you as a good Christian. If you are trying to use someone else's religion to manipulate them into accepting state control over their lives, and being forced to live and work exactly as you would choose for them, then I hope you will take an honest look at yourself (and history).

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All charity, Christians are encouraged to be kind to each other, and to look after the needy. Keep in mind that God's kingdom is a KINGDOM, not a communist government, you leftist tumor.

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Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

No one is perfect.

Matthew 6:2-4 - Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

There's no virtue in virtue signaling

Luke 3:11-14 - And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.

As long as everyone reciprocates there's no problem, but communism doesn't do reciprocation it does seizing power.

1 John 3:17 - But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?

Hard to call strangers brother, even harder when they don't look like you.

1 Corinthians 10:24 - Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor.

See above. Doesn't work with multicultural cancer.

Proverbs 28:27 - Whoever gives to the poor will not want, but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse.

Most bums make plenty of money begging, they're bums not poor. Minimum wage slaves make less. But yeah, sharing with the truly poor comes back to you.

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National Socialism has entered the chat.

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, need a post moved to

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Not a political cartoon. need this comment moved to a random thread in

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fuck this post. I want to kidnap OP and lock him in my basement

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please move OP to 's basement.

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no censorship here on poal, no, no.

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we only censor stupid memes

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The 1st Amendment has meaning only for content you don't agree with my censoring friend.

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Doesn't need to be censored, let it be destroyed by virtue of its own stupidity.

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OP - got something to say?

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So a jewish religion promotes communism, I'm shocked.

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Where’s the scripture where they talk about the government running it all? Can’t seem to find that one.

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I doubt many christians would mind the arrangement described, since it was small groups of christians using their shared resources to protect themselves from religious and ethnic oppression.

Imagine socialism without leftists, blacks, atheists, etc. Suddenly the flaws are minimized while retaining clear advantages. As a survival strategy, it's perfectly viable, as evidenced by history. The fact that commies will lure well-meaning whites into their schemes with this doesn't subtract from it's validity.

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I don’t believe this meme was meant for the situation in which you describe. OP tries to use follow up scripture to sway, and in small Christian communities untouched by government, yes, this would work. However, that’s not the society we have today. This is whole meme is a mute point.

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True, op is a subversive nihilist at best.

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oh do we still use the term "fundie" lol

takes me back to oh, 2004 or so

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"And, according to the Lord's command, the king did force the believers to work and pay for all non-believers and those who do not work. Some of the believers then waivered in their faith, questioning if this would lead the Lord's kingdom on earth to become non-productive, or if this would effectively turn the believers into slaves.

The Lord then showed he is truly the Lord, and he did smite the doubters when the King's servants arrived with guns to detain or shoot anyone who would not comply. Those who lived then held the Lord's power in awe, and never did doubt again as they starved to death."

  • Acts Of Idiots 6:66

The Bible calls on us to be generous, to love our neighbors, to help the needy, and to better our communities, willingly. I have known zero conservative Christians who are against this, and the Right-wing conservative Christian community I currently live in does charity, volunteer work, and community projects at a far higher rate than any of the liberal urban neighborhoods I used to live in. Is your experience different?

Taking one passage of the Bible out of context to seemingly justify Communism at a very surface level is extremely disingenuous. At no point does the Bible ask you to hold the State as the supreme authority... as is always shown to be necessary to maintain a Communist economy, despite all the "stateless" rhetoric that is used to sell Communist revolutions. Speaking of economy, Communism invariably produces massive amounts of poverty, besides the vast riches held by the ruling party members (again, despite the "classless" rhetoric used to sell the revolutions). If the Bible commands us to help the poor, then Communism has shown itself to be tremendously anti-Biblical in results, every time it has been tried.

I will continue to voluntarily give my time and money to help my community, as the Bible demands of me. I will not give the state the ultimate authority over every aspect of my life, I will not have my labor be owned or the material life I've earned be taken without my consent, I will not submit to the ideologies of the resentful and envious, and I will not ignore history so that the greedy and idiotic can use my family to run an experiment that fails every time. I certainly will not entertain the idea that anti-Christians (or, generously, just morons) might convince me to take actions that lead to non-Biblical results by quoting Bible passages at me.

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Communism is great if you're part of the ruling class, everyone else has to suffer in perpetuity to prop them up.

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