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Succession (https://www.hbo.com/succession) is a more realistic approach/setting for what you're seeking. Its also superior in its dialogue and doesn't rely on generic vague philosophies to drive home a point.

"wizards and dragons" are very 13 year old-esque thinking.

I'll have to check out Succession when I get the chance.

"wizards and dragons" are very 13 year old-esque thinking.

Heh. That's a false dichotomy based on only your subjective world view, one where someone is trying too hard to appear "adult". Looks like Tolkien, Robin Hobb, Terry Pratchett, Scott Lynch, R.F. Kuang, Douglas Adams, and many others did not get that same memo.

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"Looks like Tolkien, Robin Hobb, Terry Pratchett, Scott Lynch, R.F. Kuang, Douglas Adams, and many others did not get that same memo." They did. They wrote books for pre teen boys.

Men read non-fiction works. Leave the jew "magic" works for the children.

Says who, you? Who the fuck are you to define what fiction men write or read? You are a petulent child with a rigid, unflexible view of the world, a person with no imagination or wonder. One who dictates that recreation must coincide with your view of manhood- itself an ironically childish belief.