That part of it is less of what I'm talking about, even. It's more the people who claim that "without women being able to vote, the West would be 100% perfect" and "White women caused all the problems that we see today in the West". Meanwhile, without jews and the non-Whites they brought into the West, these problems wouldn't exist, with or without women voting. Yet they categorically will not ever admit that the problem is shitskins and their jew owners. Do I think women should vote? No. But whining about it and pretending it not happening would have prevented what jews and niggers and spics have done to our countries is fucking retarded. Furthermore, 70% of White women vote right wing right now. OVER 90% of ALL non-Whites vote left for life. So "get rid of the woman vote will fix everything" is also fucking retarded. These MTGOW types have zero ability to do any sort of rational analysis. It's all just "I can't get a quality woman so women are the sole cause of all problems in the world." It's fucking retarded.