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The cases of influenza A and B are not measured the same way as covid. Influenza cases are not typically logged with the CDC unless someone is hospitalized and tested for them. Its possible this happens sometimes in a doctors office. But people who get sick right now go and get tested for covid and if they are negative they probably have the flu and ignore it. Like people usually do, because its not fatal unless you are 80. So its hard to compare “cases” because influenza cases are not counted the way covid is and they never have been— apples and oranges.

If you're saying the "disappearance" of the flu is being caused by the testing regime then I agree.

Now when you look at how influenza spreads every year, it just doesnt hit the whole continent. What you see is regional outbreaks. A particular area may not get a large flu outbreak for ten years. Then it will get a lot of cases in one season. I assume this is because of local immunity from the previous outbreak until a mutation or lowered herd immunity over time suddenly makes a community more susceptible. So Im inclined to think that because the incidence of any particular area actually having a flu outbreak is a very stochasitic process determined by previous regional immunity and social behaviors which is already quite a low probability anyway. After social behaviors were changed the probabilities were changed enough for flu virus to not get a foothold in any particular region. Does that make any sense?

Yes, but it doesn't account for the complete disappearance of flu viruses.

the immunity to coronavirus were low /nil#

I'm not convinced this is true. If it were then there would be a 100% infection rate. Coronaviruses are very common and even if one has a high infection rate it's not something so novel that it can sidestep every healthy immune system.

more of the virus in your body means you are spreading more. The viral load with covid is much higher. You are literally spewing 1000 times more virus with covid than you are with the flu

How do we know this? Given the amount of scientism surrounding this particular event I have a very high bar for claims regarding it.

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If you're saying the "disappearance" of the flu is being caused by the testing regime then I agree

Im saying in a scientific experiment you have to take your measures the same way. We never performed 50 million PCRs to test for influenza this year or any other years. Measurement must be as consistent as posible. Apples to oranges. There are mild flu cases this year and in other years that are going completely undetected. Covid PCR tests are logged as “cases” when a couple stray covid viruses are detected in the nose of a person who may never have symptoms.

Yes, but it doesn't account for the complete disappearance of flu viruses.

That is because they didn’t completely disappear. If you were doing pcr tests for flu, you would find people testing positive, just fewer people than if you were testing in other years. And positive people would have less virus per ‘nose’. Because behaviors have changed. If this behavior continues ( mask faggotry, social distancing, 10000 hand washings) , influenza A is bound to mutate to become more infectious. Influenza seems ‘happy’ infecting 50 million american a years with a mild illness. But if you prevent it from replicating in these ‘new’ conditions, more virulent strains will be selected for. Unlike coronaviruses, influenza mutates very frequently.

All the shit about new covid strains is in fact horseshit. Coronavirus has a built in error detection/correction algo which prevents mutations. It mutates very slowly compared to some other viruses. But I digress.

I'm not convinced this is true. If it were then there would be a 100% infection rate.

Well, people who have had OC-43, a common cold virus that is also a betacoronavirus ,already probably have what is call “T-cell immunity” which probably means a milder case for those people, and it is a big chunk of the population. But people who have been isolating or following strict hygenic behaviors simply would not have been exposed to covid. Especially in more rural areas. Rural areas are already socially distancing, by being sparsely populated.

How do we know this?

You could estimate the quantity or concentration of virus a few different ways but probably they are doing it by pcr. A large amount of virus will result in positive result after a small number of pcr cylces (amplifications) and trace amounts of virus with only result in positive results after a high number of amplification cycles. I assume they have modeled what quantity of viruses result in a positive result and what amplification level. They could also compare quantities of flu or covid virus with an in vitro culture process.

I dont really think they have induced 50,000 lab techs around the world to lie for anthony fauci. There is a hoax going on, but it is at the interpretive level. Most people dont understand the data. I fundamentally did not understand how viral infections worked 1 year ago. I do now, at least a lot more. CDC and WHO exploit the public’s fundamental misapprehensions about all the medical shit surrounding covid. People know they are getting scammed but they arent sure how.

Covid is hard to “cure” because it shuts off the early phase of your immune system by mucking around in the nucleus of your cells. Therefore it is able to replicate very rapidly in the first week or two of infection. Especially in old people, it outpaces the production of antibodies because of that early population explosion. Other than sheer quantity of virus, its not much different from OC43 which is a fucking cold. They knew HCQ would kill it because HCQ kills all viruses. Lots of antivirals kill SARS COV 2 virus. Dozens. Several antibiotics. Ivermectin. They will all work if you give them in the early phase of the infection when viral levels are low.

The effective dose of an antiviral depends of the amount of virus in the body, e.g. the lungs, airways, where it gains a foot hold. When a patient goes untreated until the severe stage of covid, the quantity of virus in their body is too high for a standard dose of antiviral to be effective. In many cases the “effective dose” that would wipe out a high level of virus is also a lethal dose.

Early infection ->low level virus->low effective dosage of antiviral ( literally dozens of choices)

Late infection ->massive levels of virus (1000x higher than flu)-> high effective dose, ~ lethal levels of drug

Totally curable in the early stage of symptoms. Totally. Now you understand the “trick” of covid. The virus just replicates fast. Faster than your immune system can react. Exponential growth curve replication in some patients. It is just a flu. With a fucking trick.

PS Ivermectin is the safest most effective cure— very safe for old people. Available as an oral paste for horses without a prescription from amazon in many countries. The cure.

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Im saying in a scientific experiment you have to take your measures the same way. We never performed 50 million PCRs to test for influenza this year or any other years. Measurement must be as consistent as posible. Apples to oranges. There are mild flu cases this year and in other years that are going completely undetected. Covid PCR tests are logged as “cases” when a couple stray covid viruses are detected in the nose of a person who may never have symptoms.

That is because they didn’t completely disappear. If you were doing pcr tests for flu, you would find people testing positive, just fewer people than if you were testing in other years. And positive people would have less virus per ‘nose’. Because behaviors have changed. If this behavior continues ( mask faggotry, social distancing, 10000 hand washings) , influenza A is bound to mutate to become more infectious. Influenza seems ‘happy’ infecting 50 million american a years with a mild illness. But if you prevent it from replicating in these ‘new’ conditions, more virulent strains will be selected for. Unlike coronaviruses, influenza mutates very frequently.

Sure, we've never had any serious testing regime for flus, but we've suddenly switched all our testing focus to coronavirus, and issued instructions to professionals to diagnose virtually every flu/cold case as wuflu. Therefore I don't see the argument that the flu has actually diminished this year. It's possible, but there isn't a lot of supporting evidence to back it up.

Occam's razor says we still have plenty of flu cases and they're being recorded as covid cases.

You could estimate the quantity or concentration of virus a few different ways but probably they are doing it by pcr. A large amount of virus will result in positive result after a small number of pcr cylces (amplifications) and trace amounts of virus with only result in positive results after a high number of amplification cycles. I assume they have modeled what quantity of viruses result in a positive result and what amplification level.

I'm not asking about the technical process, I'm asking about how you or I can be sure of that claim. The answer is we can't because the discovery mechanisms have been absolutely subverted. The same people claiming covid has a high viral load are the same ones claiming it's the new plague and we're all going to die without lockdowns.

I dont really think they have induced 50,000 lab techs around the world to lie for anthony fauci.

That's not necessary. If the ones designing the tests and interpreting the results are willing to follow the party line then it doesn't matter what some guy with a pipette says. They don't even need to think of it as lying, they can rationalise it as "finding evidence." Disasters are exciting, people don't have to be corrupt to be a false profit of the end times.

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and issued instructions to professionals to diagnose virtually every flu/cold case as wuflu.

I just dont think thats likely to be true. But if it were we are talking about around 10,000 deaths that are attributed directly to influenza in a typical year. In the US. This is data pulled from death certificate codes. So lets say there were really 10,000 flu deaths categorized as covid deaths. Its not much considering the death count is half a million or so.

Overall deaths are up about 20% over 12 months. Something is going on. Are they shooting old people in the head or something?

You can look up the codes for some of these causes of death like viral pneumonia or influenza A confirmed or influenza A suspected and so on for 2020 or any other year. The user interface sucks but if you put the time in you can pull out the data for very specific categories. There does not seem to be anything super insidious going on at the data collection level. Im sure there are shenanigans here and there.

But at the end of the day I believe it is reasonable to conclude there was a massive increase in deaths over the last 12 months and that was mostly associated with people who developed severe covid disease, not with people who died of the flu but were recategorized as covid.

In a sense this is the flu. It is just a very lethal strain of it.

I'm not asking about the technical process, I'm asking about how you or I can be sure of that claim.

I would suggest that you read about PCRs and how they work and in particular how qPCRs work. They have been using qPCR tests to quantify viruses for years. I dont want to say that I totally understand the technology and manufacture process involved with all of these products, but I dont think this is just a case of a bunch of tik tok dancing nursing sluts who dont understand the technology they are using. We are talking about microbiology PhDs from every country in the world. They are often the ones who are inventing these tests.

Im telling you the severity of the illness is linked to the the quantity of virus in your body. Same with ebola. That is how it kills you.