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I tried to talk my mom (RN) out of getting “the jab”.
“So why aren’t people getting the flu anymore?” “Well, because everyone is wearing masks.” “Then why are they getting Covid?” “Because people aren’t wearing their masks.” “You realize that’s a complete contradiction?” “Well, as a professional in the medical field...”
There are no words to pierce that level of indoctrination and arrogance. Boomers with degrees cannot be reasoned with; their whole identity is that they were the first to leave the farm or whatever and get a degree and become cosmopolitan.
Yeah. Sounds a lot like my mom. My dad is significantly more reasonable, but basically can't be bothered anymore. He was really good at playing interference with her shenanigans when I was younger though,
Yeah, she wore him down. The all do it. Next he’ll die. Sorry, it’s the way it goes.
This made me very sad because that’s literally my dad
Half correct. She got the experimental gene therapy, but he refused. I spent, like, an hour on the phone trying to convince her not to. Tried to get pops in on it and he just sighed "Your mother does what (s)he wants. I got tired of saying "I told you so" so I stopped telling her so." So the half right is that she's worn him down for putting her on the right path, but I don't see his behavior changing that much in relation to what she wants.
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If I could just stand up for your mom a little bit...
How a virus spreads is basically a physics problem at the microscopic level.
Virus groups are physically different from each other: they are different sizes, they thrive at different temperatures, inhabit different parts of the body, different ability to enter a cell and so on.
Maybe the most important difference with covid is that, because it replicates very rapidly compared to flu, there are thousands or even millions of times more virus in your nose and thoat by the time you get symptoms with covid, vs flu. That means you are spewing thousands of times more virus in the air compared to flu.
Most people believe catching a virus is binary: you get a single virion in your nose and you are sick. Its not true. Inhaling low amounts of virus may result in no infection or an asymptomatic infection. Inhaling medium amounts of virus may result in a mild infection and inhaling high amounts of virus will result in severe infections.
The covid quarantine measures may have been effective at preventing the number of flu cases and / or the severity of flu cases. People definitely changed their behavior. It wasn’t necessarily the masks though.
If you want to make a solid case to your mom about the vaccine, send her to the openvaers.com site and have her read some of the adverse events listed there for say, people under 50 resulting in death.
Lots of people having severe reactions and dying of prophylaxis and acute autoimmune syndromes. Females under 50 have a much greater chance of contracting an autoimmune disease from this vaccine than from dying of covid.
Low dose ivermectin as prophylaxis will work as well as the vaccine ( proven in studies by boomers with degrees) and ivermectin has never killed a person in 50 years. And you can buy it on amazon for $6 without a script.
I get that one virus can be more infectious than another, but not so much so that one whole class of very infectious and common viruses can be completely eradicated (zero cases) and another still spreading like wildfire.
Well lets think about the problem and the factors affecting both.
The cases of influenza A and B are not measured the same way as covid. Influenza cases are not typically logged with the CDC unless someone is hospitalized and tested for them. Its possible this happens sometimes in a doctors office. But people who get sick right now go and get tested for covid and if they are negative they probably have the flu and ignore it. Like people usually do, because its not fatal unless you are 80. So its hard to compare “cases” because influenza cases are not counted the way covid is and they never have been— apples and oranges.
What we can count is deaths directly attributed to influenza A and B and that was around 1/10 of what it usually is, typically ~10,000 a winter.
Now when you look at how influenza spreads every year, it just doesnt hit the whole continent. What you see is regional outbreaks. A particular area may not get a large flu outbreak for ten years. Then it will get a lot of cases in one season. I assume this is because of local immunity from the previous outbreak until a mutation or lowered herd immunity over time suddenly makes a community more susceptible. So Im inclined to think that because the incidence of any particular area actually having a flu outbreak is a very stochasitic process determined by previous regional immunity and social behaviors which is already quite a low probability anyway. After social behaviors were changed the probabilities were changed enough for flu virus to not get a foothold in any particular region. Does that make any sense?
But the biggest factors at play here are that
— the immunity to coronavirus were low /nil
— more of the virus in your body means you are spreading more. The viral load with covid is much higher. You are literally spewing 1000 times more virus with covid than you are with the flu
My dad is the same.
Why is there no flu?
Because the lockdown is working so well
Then why are wuflu cases on the rise
Because people are ignoring the lockdown
Then why aren't they spreading the flu?
It's not his fault, he lives in a world where it's important to trust professionals and listen to their advice. In fact if he didn't he probably wouldn't be able to do his job. The idea that a whole country could be in the sway of institutional groupthink (let alone foreign propaganda) is beyond him.
Fuck boomers.
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