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Applauded by his wife, and wife’s boyfriend

Applauded by his wife, and wife’s boyfriend

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I dont know that I ever meant to communicate my vision of a better family model to you. I just know that guys around here squawk all the time about hypergamy and then say “hey, ladies should not work, they should stay home and raise kids.” Which is a recipe for financial or economic hypergamy. Which isn’t necessarily bad, but obviously there are other traits besides money that should be taken into account.

As I said, giving males too much power in a society will lead to polygamy. There is a smaller disparity of power among white men and women and I think that is the natural result of forced monogamy. I also think that the fact that white fathers are a little less likely to sell their teenage daughters to 50 year old men for cash than some other groups is also a result of thousands of years of natural selection for traits compatible with monogamy.

But given a different set of cultural constraints, white guys will not be the same for long. Evolution changes people over time. You do not want to make decisions now that will cause white men to evolve in to polygamous pediphiles over time. It could happen.

Like it or not, it's a classic Western strategy. Since the Rape of the Sabine Women, the West has had a contingency

True but its been awhile since that sort of thing has happened.

Given the amount of R1b y chromosomes that are around europe, one supposed that the aryan invaders were taking multiple wives from the people they conquered. I havent researched it but I assume. But their white hybrid descendents have been enforcing monogamy for 2000 years at least.

You better bet their families began the arranged marriage process when the daughters got over the age figure you reported.

You are overlooking the fact that many incels just joined the nunnery/monastary.

You know, we lost a lot when we lost the church. We need a replacement institution. Obviously the values that you are most concerned about have been eroding because the church is largely gone from our lives. It was a natural place for men and women to be trained in what was expected from them and also a natural place to find prospective spouses.

Im just obviously very against fathers being the only people with a say in who their daughters marry. That seems like lunacy to me. I think that like a lot of guys here, you assume the antidote to extreme feminism is extreme misogyny or extreme patriarchy and I would point out that that will have a lot of unintended consequences you haven’t considered.

>ladies should not work

The claim was that they should not hold employment. Women have always worked in White societies. They raised children and did numerous other labors for the family. However, there is a good reason why never-married single women and married women were not allowed to own property until somewhat recent history. America got rid of it's coverture law in the 1820s, and that might have been one of the floodgates to letting (((them))) in throughout the late 1800s. Women should definitely work.

> giving males too much power in a society will lead to polygamy

Tacitus' Germania disagrees with you on this, mostly.

Whites are meant for monogamy and chastity before marriage, per Germania. Their traditional societies enforced this. A woman who wasn't a virgin was shaved and flogged publicly then never allowed to marry. Also the "head of the family" is leading it, the patriarch of a multigenerational household, being paterfamiliae in the original Latin.

>True but its been awhile since that sort of thing has happened.

True, but history repeats itself.

>You are overlooking the fact that many incels just joined the nunnery/monastary

Many whores and cucks will need to be in similar asylums or free helicopter rides.

> We need a replacement institution

Again, see Germania. Whites held themselves together in their multigenerational paterfamiliae for centuries before Charlemagne's line even forced Christianity on Whites through conquest. The solution is there. Arranged marriage and multigenerational households. Yes, in a society with values women will pair up with cihldhood friends and the "arrangement" will be a rubber stamp, but the arrangement for women and men seeking to "live life" with vice or put off marriage to 30 will still be an important check and balance on hypergamy and hedonism.

>Im just obviously very against fathers being the only people with a say in who their daughters marry

I, too, wish for a society where virtually every suitor out there deserves a woman wholly worthy of marriage (debt-free virgin without tattoos.) Arranged marriage (in a bad society) is the cradle for the stigmas that can rekindle such a White society.

> that that will have a lot of unintended consequences you haven’t considered

Whites were stable in paterfamiliae in the past. Whites can be again.