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> males and females have equal roles
No. Men are not women. Women are not men. Women cannot find genuine happiness without patriarchy and motherhood. For millennia, Whites have use multigenerational households to pass down the family's unique and timeless traditions, heritage, culture, and stigmas. Women in these households would fulfil their lives raising their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. Mothers would promote good traits in their children, like chastity in girls and leadership over girls in boys. Fathers would look for mutual traits in their children and arrange their marriages to continue the tradition. (((They))), being matriarchal, couldn't stand it.
The subversive nuclear family didn't even last a century. In 1890, dating was extremely rare and very stigmatized. By 1910, dating was common, and nuclear families were rapidly replacing multigenerational families. This was no accident. (((Emerging ownership))) of 1900s media promoted the dating cash cow. At the same time, the (((leaders))) of First Wave feminism fought hard to lead women to date and advocate for women's suffrage and the age of consent (age of marriage). Since then, these have brought values to Weimar levels. The single motherhood family unit has replaced the nuclear family. Politicians voted in by women are flooding White nations with the third world. This is not White culture. We need to return to arranged marriage and multigenerational households. Nothing but patriarchy can fix this.
> YOU ARE SELECTING FOR FEMALE HYPERGAMY
Not with fathers making the calls. True, more wealth may correlate to better husbandly qualities as judged by fathers, but at the end of the day, the traits to be a good father and husband are paramount. Some matches will have different age gaps compared to others based on what the fathers find appropriate. White fathers in history understood that earlier marriage for men was valuable to protect against history's version of pornography and Nintendo Switch addiction. Likewise, as fathers realize the importance of pair bonding in marriage success. Soyboy's big mommy milkers pale in importance to chastity and youth. This is patriarchy.
> The earlier the marriage, the more likely the hypergamy
I direct you to the Faroe Islands. 30 years ago, they were a White stronghold. Then, they let their women "live life" (go to university in her youth and ride the cock carousel). The women didn't go back to their tradition. For years now, many men of the Faroe Islands have taken Thai wives and drastically changed the genetics of the Faroe Islands. The White women "lived life" and their hypergamy exploded, their homelands collateral. Women "living life" quite literally destroyed the demographics. No. Women belong in the home, the multigenerational household. This is patriarchy.
> you’re desperate for any justification to fuck kids
Fathers know when their daughters are mature enough to wed. It is abstract in our day and age, but not all women are 10/10 porn sex goddesses. Women age. Men are capable of loving their wives as young women, young mothers, mothers on their 6th pregnancy, wise grandmothers, and even venerated great grandmothers. Men can love the woman and accept the course of age on her, even if that woman isn't perfect sex goddess at the start or the end. This is patriarchy. We must return to arranged marriage and multigenerational households.
I direct you to the Faroe Islands. 30 years ago, they were a White stronghold.
I did not know this. I heard that they were "hipster Iceland", but that's about the extent of my knowledge.
For years now, many men of the Faroe Islands have taken Thai wives and drastically changed the genetics of the Faroe Islands.
They had hapa kids with their Thai wives?! That's one positive I can say for the Boomers, for the Boomers I know who brought back "Souveniers" from 'Nam did not have kids with them. Unfortunately, I know all too many Gen Xers who took Thai wives home to the West, had hapas, and have not been happy. They are at least as hen-pecked and harried as they would have been if they'd just married a White woman, but they have the additional disadvantage of having kids who look nothing like them.
Reminds me of a semi-recent Verizon commercial where a White guy has an Asian wife, and Asian kids, and none of them look like him, for all I know he could have adopted them all as there was no biological resemblance. Majorly depressing stuff, poor dude has committed sua and doesn't realize it.
As one of our alt-right rappers put it:
Look at my [non-White] baby, she's so big now, she's beautiful!
and she'll never look like me, I gave my genetics a funeral!
Eh, you know a guy could do worse than a chinky wife. Obviously I think white girls are the best. But at least you wont have total retards. Maybe it depends on the flavor of chink.
But another generation and he could have keanu reeves as a grand kid so its not that bad.
But at least you wont have total retards.
Probably not, but you'll have "Elliot Rodger" type sons, who have beta hapa strife because they know they have been dealt a bad lot in life. Even 0bama's biography admitted that a hapa is wracked with perpetual angst over his identity.
I dunno about Keanu, he used to be cool but now he's like a parody of himself. I thought it was just because of his age but it must be something else because his buddy (((Alex Winter))) still has it. Age has also hit Keanu pretty hard, as though all the talk shows confronting him with pictures suggesting his "immortality" caused him to suddenly age-up, Dorian Grey-style. The guy might wind up being the next generation of Malcolm McDowell.
I have seen the unhappiness too. However, they get pretty dang close to White wife levels of happiness when they convince the Asian wife to get in-vitro treatment with white eggs. It has its pros and cons. It's expensive ($10,000), but the man can choose a woman with the fairest hair, most colorful eyes, athleticism, and intellect to pass his blond hair and hopefully other talents on to his sons, unlike his choices among most other hypergamous White women today. Overall, it's better to marry White.
Our ancestors are rolling in their graves. They gave us so many tools like arranged marriage to control hypergamy, that we might not have to rely on foreign brides and in-vitro as replacements for having White children.
American Renaissance had an article about a White guy trapped in a personal racist hell over in present-day Japan, and it stuck with me that he said his hapa kids couldn't really fit in anywhere. This guy took Eddie Murphy's advice, keep your third-world wife in the third world, but it looks like Murphy's advice for marital bliss only applies to same-race marriages.
So having an Asian wife act as a surrogate for your White child would solve that problem, though when you're not doing the in-vitro you'd have to be ultra cautious as to not spawn an accidental hapa, still seems really risky to me.
Our ancestors are rolling in their graves.
As great as John Adams was, his wife is hailed as the one who started all of this feminism in the USA. If only he had kept her in line...
Women cannot find genuine happiness without patriarchy and motherhood.
Well you arent in the position to be defining happiness for women since you clearly have never met one.
(((They))), being matriarchal,
They have been historically patriarchal and largely patrilineal in terms of inheritance. If youve had any contact with orthodox, you know the men are in charge.
Dating
They called it courting or wooing its been around forever. There was alway an age of consent /age of marriage. Since fucking rome and all throughout the middle ages up to the present. Fucking english commonlaw.
Politicians voted in by women are flooding White nations with the third world. This is not White culture.
Agree
We need to return to arranged marriage and multigenerational households. Nothing but patriarchy can fix this.
It depends on what you mean by patriarchy. Im skeptical of your proposal.
Not with fathers making the calls.
Fathers will make the calls that advance their own economic status. Everywhere men have ultimate say over who their daughters marry, 12 year old girls get traded as fuck toys and brood mares so the dad can have a new COW. Every single place where men are given this authority. Because it is a corrupting power. Like all power. And in these circumstances the brides are all very young. And the age disparities are large. Because daddy’s gonna get some bang for his buck.
All this trends toward a disproportionate amount of male power and increased hypergamy. Wealthy men will then hoard multiple young girls and poor men will have no females. Polygamy. Isnt it interesting that where you see the most forced marriages you see extremely young girls being traded for cash by their fathers, huge age disparity and POLYGAMY?
Unintended consequences of giving daddy too much authority. Males are just as corruptible as females. Evolution doesnt care. It dictates that individuals will tend to press their advantage when they can.
many men of the Faroe Islands have taken Thai wives and drastically changed the genetics of the Faroe Islands. The White women "lived life" and their hypergamy
So the men became race traitors and mudsharks? Because faroese women went to college? Good story. That will teach those stupid oil drilling whores. Their kids are going to have a fucking 90 iq. Why are men so cheap and easy? Hey we dont even know if those Thais are women. Faroes have gone down hill. XD
Fathers know when their daughters are mature enough to wed
Fathers know when they can get a good price for their 12 year olds. Europeans have been selected for monogamy and relative egalitarianism between the sexes. European women have historically had more power than any other female group relative to men. Maybe chinky people too. The further north you go the more monogamy you see. The more monogamy, the greater the power of females in the marriages. Faroese wahmens always had alot of power. There were increased options and increased sexual liscence for both sexes and faroese men just decided to fuck gooks.
Typical ages of marriage in england based on church records
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Class differences played a great role in when a couple could marry; the wealthier that a couple was, the likelier that they were to marry earlier. Noblewomen and gentlewomen married early, but they were a small minority;[24] a thousand marriage certificates issued by the Diocese of Canterbury between 1619 and 1660 show that only one bride was aged thirteen years, four were fifteen, twelve were sixteen, seventeen were seventeen, and the other 966 of the brides were aged nineteen years or older when they married for the first time. The church stipulated that both the bride and groom must be at least 21 years of age to marry without the consent of their families; the most common ages of marriage were 22 for women, 24 for men; the median ages were 22.8 for women and 25.5 for men; the average ages were 24 years for women and nearly 28 years for men. The youngest brides were nobility and gentry.[25]
-Peter Laslett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line
Look at these ages
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3002115/table/T1/?report=objectonly
I briefly skimmed over your conversations with yesterday. From most of your points then, and now, it seems like you have a predisposition to the idea that modern levels of individualism are genetic among Whites. You especially highlight how one in a relationship can be "abused" by someone with even a five-year leg-up on life experience. This might be true in nuclear family individualism, but not in a multigenerational household. While some values, like monogamy, are genetically written into the millennia of White history, (((Enlightenment))) individualism has only been around for a few centuries, nuclear family individualism for about a century. We can return to multigenerational households, where the patriarchs will be making, as they did for millennia of White history, the consequential life decisions, not the horny teenager or person with marginally more life experience.
>Courtship
I'm glad you brought up this White tradition. While a woman's value can be summarized by how she's raised children so far in the multigenerational household as well as her chastity, men must be strong for their families and able to lead them. Thus, courtship is indeed an important White tradition. A testing period to ensure that the man can (for example) bench 20 reps of 120% his body weight, relate the history of his unique and timeless family line, and prove he can provide by contributing to the family business is an important period, and this process weeds out the old sickly rent-seeking geezers who would otherwise abuse the White maiden. Courtship is vital to arranged marriage between White families. High value women should even require the modern masculine interpretation of slaying a dragon to court the maiden in monogamous marriage. This is patriarchy.
> faroese men just decided to fuck gooks
>just decided
You can tell men to man up all you want, but uncontrolled hypergamy does not bode well for humble men without degrees who lost enough of their traditional values to let women leave to university and get city jobs. Women, in general, do not seek out men with fewer degrees and less income for love marriage. The Faroese men didn't "just decide" to let women "price" themselves out of marriage in their homeland with their own hypergamy. Nuclear families have subverted the Faroe Islands as much as they have other White nations. It should sadden all whites that some would have hapa kids instead of banning their women from colleges, but understanding what happened and why it happened is important for other White nations. If the Faroe Islands recover from this, they will truly be an example for the rest.
>Look at these ages
Those look good and healthy enough to produce many healthy White children. Some fathers may decide on a case-by-case basis that a few years younger than that is when his daughter is ready for marriage and motherhood, to a suitable suitor who can slay that dragon.
You especially highlight how one in a relationship can be "abused" by someone with even a five-year leg-up on life experience. This might be true in nuclear family individualism, but not in a multigenerational household.
What a joke. Who are the young female prospective brood mare and her husband going to live with? Lemme guess... his family. Have you ever heard of a mother in law? Ive had asian friends from more trad cultures, and the wife has to live with the husband’s parents. And she gets treated like shit. This pattern pops up in muslim, hindu, and east asian cultures so its not a one off.
Teenage girls are not emotionally prepared to be impregnated and bullied by an obnoxious cruel mother in law, which is what happens a lot of the time. If you want a patrilineal patriarchy I assume these girls will be living with the husband’s fam.
Allow girls to gain the maturity that comes with a few extra years of experience before they make an informed choice to live with a man and his family. You are being naive about the parental generation always being selfless and wanting whats best for young people.
While a woman's value can be summarized by how she's raised children so far in the multigenerational household as well as her chastity,
Does your net worth summarize you? I know its hard to imagine but there’s a human being under the tits. We are not a fuck toy or a brood mare any more than you are a meal ticket, or a dumb draft animal. Do you like being valued thusly? Arent you the one bitching about the mercenary aspects of hypergamy?
blah blah dragons
I will take the smart guy everytime.
but uncontrolled hypergamy does not bode well for humble men without degrees who lost enough of their traditional values to let women leave to university and get city jobs.
You just described to me a hypergamy scenario. Men must prove their worth— strength, work ethic, family lineage, military prowess and the woman is choosey about who she mates with. That is hypergamy.
faroese men just decided to fuck gooks
just decided
I’m sure they had their reasons. But women don’t have to take your deal either if they dont like it. I am pretty anti feminist but I would not take your deal. Why would women just agree to have the status of a child? Women won’t take your deal and they have other options. You are going to have to make a better offer. Consider me a representative for femalekind. I am not going to recommend this deal to my client.
I don’t agree with the moral atmosphere of today’s universities but I absolutely am in favor of training men and women to their highest intellectual capacities. Women’s primary role is always going to be child rearing but refusing to educate hi IQ women is just a tactic of cowards that are afraid of women reaching their full potential. That is just pig ignorant.
I am smarter than 90% of the men I meet. At least. It’s just a statement of fact. You think physics or technology or calculus or medical expertise is only useful if you earn a paycheck? You think knowledge of history and literature wouldnt be useful for a woman who is responsible for the welfare of her family?
It sounds like you want to go back to Little House on the Prairie. So would I. Thats never going to happen. We are in an arms race with the chinks and the jews. We are not currently winning. It is a genetic arms race. You want to select for passive bimbos. Thats what the muzzies do. But unfortunately their sons are equally stupid.
Do you want the genetic gold ? Do you want a son with a 130 IQ? Well you are going to have to find a broad with a 130 IQ and get her to marry you.
You are forbidden to study book learnins!
Ya think thats gonna win her?
Some fathers may decide on a case-by-case basis that a few years younger than that
Every single time fathers are put in this position it leads to corruption. Every single time. Every place where this is practiced with regularity daughters become pawns. It is the muzzification of whites. It will predictably happen because of how evolution works. If males can advance their wealth by trading their young daughters to wealthy men, they will. And it will become ingrained in the culture and genetics.
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