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It seems as though you've failed to communicate what kind of society you want at all. Has your proposed system ever been tried? If so, what society are you seeking to emulate? Is it extant? If not, why?

>NW europeans’ typical age of marriage has been early to mid twenties for a LONG time and there for later marriage is neither necessary nor (in particular) sufficient for Onlyfan whores and fapping incels

We already agree on that age being fine for most. My amendum was that some reach maturity earlier than others and can get married earlier on a case-by-case basis.

> women being forced to marry hypergamously by their decent white christian FAMILIES. For CASH

How is that different from rich old jews buying them as sex slaves now just without the marriage? In America alone, 400,000 children go missing every year. Every system has those who fall through the cracks. My system would be far better than that 400,000 in love marriage America alone.

>middle and lower class women were relatively free to make love matches

You better bet their families began the arranged marriage process when the daughters got over the age figure you reported. As it turns out, there is an abundance of good men and women in a world with multigenerational family unit values. The pairing is almost automatic and the fathers just nod to an arangement that is as good as any, but they do check for important things like preserving unique and timeless ethnicity, which was easy seeing how travel was restricted before Western modernity. Childhood friends made/make great spouses. You overestimate how "forced" arranged marriage is in a society with values.

>Then they offered a matrilineal strategy to wahmens in which paternity is not established and the female is supported by her own family (uncle sam). This is more hunter gatherer.

How is it hunter gatherer? Vast industries enable the surplus for their welfare.

>Only some females are making polygamous matches with wealthy men, all of mel gibsons wives, all of donald trump’s wives. These are men that abandon monogamy, as many elites have always done, because they can.

I agree. Divorce and (proven) adultery should be punishable by free helicopter rides.

>The faroese men were essentially going with a muzzie strategy, buy cheap submissive females. Very brown strategy

Like it or not, it's a classic Western strategy. Since the Rape of the Sabine Women, the West has had a contingency for replacing their own women who are not there for whatever reason. It is a shame that they are not White.

It seems as though you've failed to communicate what kind of society you want at all. Has your proposed system ever been tried? If so, what society are you seeking to emulate? Is it extant? If not, why? >>NW europeans’ typical age of marriage has been early to mid twenties for a LONG time and there for later marriage is neither necessary nor (in particular) sufficient for Onlyfan whores and fapping incels We already agree on that age being fine for most. My amendum was that some reach maturity earlier than others and can get married earlier on a case-by-case basis. >> women being forced to marry hypergamously by their decent white christian FAMILIES. For CASH How is that different from rich old jews buying them as sex slaves now just without the marriage? In America alone, 400,000 children go missing every year. Every system has those who fall through the cracks. My system would be far better than that 400,000 in love marriage America alone. >>middle and lower class women were relatively free to make love matches You better bet their families began the arranged marriage process when the daughters got over the age figure you reported. As it turns out, there is an abundance of good men and women in a world with multigenerational family unit values. The pairing is almost automatic and the fathers just nod to an arangement that is as good as any, but they do check for important things like preserving unique and timeless ethnicity, which was easy seeing how travel was restricted before Western modernity. Childhood friends made/make great spouses. You overestimate how "forced" arranged marriage is in a society with values. >>Then they offered a matrilineal strategy to wahmens in which paternity is not established and the female is supported by her own family (uncle sam). This is more hunter gatherer. How is it hunter gatherer? Vast industries enable the surplus for their welfare. >>Only some females are making polygamous matches with wealthy men, all of mel gibsons wives, all of donald trump’s wives. These are men that abandon monogamy, as many elites have always done, because they can. I agree. Divorce and (proven) adultery should be punishable by free helicopter rides. >>The faroese men were essentially going with a muzzie strategy, buy cheap submissive females. Very brown strategy Like it or not, it's a classic Western strategy. Since the Rape of the Sabine Women, the West has had a contingency for replacing their own women who are not there for whatever reason. It is a shame that they are not White.

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I dont know that I ever meant to communicate my vision of a better family model to you. I just know that guys around here squawk all the time about hypergamy and then say “hey, ladies should not work, they should stay home and raise kids.” Which is a recipe for financial or economic hypergamy. Which isn’t necessarily bad, but obviously there are other traits besides money that should be taken into account.

As I said, giving males too much power in a society will lead to polygamy. There is a smaller disparity of power among white men and women and I think that is the natural result of forced monogamy. I also think that the fact that white fathers are a little less likely to sell their teenage daughters to 50 year old men for cash than some other groups is also a result of thousands of years of natural selection for traits compatible with monogamy.

But given a different set of cultural constraints, white guys will not be the same for long. Evolution changes people over time. You do not want to make decisions now that will cause white men to evolve in to polygamous pediphiles over time. It could happen.

Like it or not, it's a classic Western strategy. Since the Rape of the Sabine Women, the West has had a contingency

True but its been awhile since that sort of thing has happened.

Given the amount of R1b y chromosomes that are around europe, one supposed that the aryan invaders were taking multiple wives from the people they conquered. I havent researched it but I assume. But their white hybrid descendents have been enforcing monogamy for 2000 years at least.

You better bet their families began the arranged marriage process when the daughters got over the age figure you reported.

You are overlooking the fact that many incels just joined the nunnery/monastary.

You know, we lost a lot when we lost the church. We need a replacement institution. Obviously the values that you are most concerned about have been eroding because the church is largely gone from our lives. It was a natural place for men and women to be trained in what was expected from them and also a natural place to find prospective spouses.

Im just obviously very against fathers being the only people with a say in who their daughters marry. That seems like lunacy to me. I think that like a lot of guys here, you assume the antidote to extreme feminism is extreme misogyny or extreme patriarchy and I would point out that that will have a lot of unintended consequences you haven’t considered.

I dont know that I ever meant to communicate my vision of a better family model to you. I just know that guys around here squawk all the time about hypergamy and then say “hey, ladies should not work, they should stay home and raise kids.” Which is a recipe for financial or economic hypergamy. Which isn’t necessarily bad, but obviously there are other traits besides money that should be taken into account. As I said, giving males too much power in a society will lead to polygamy. There is a smaller disparity of power among white men and women and I think that is the natural result of forced monogamy. I also think that the fact that white fathers are a little less likely to sell their teenage daughters to 50 year old men for cash than some other groups is also a result of thousands of years of natural selection for traits compatible with monogamy. But given a different set of cultural constraints, white guys will not be the same for long. Evolution changes people over time. You do not want to make decisions now that will cause white men to evolve in to polygamous pediphiles over time. It could happen. >Like it or not, it's a classic Western strategy. Since the Rape of the Sabine Women, the West has had a contingency True but its been awhile since that sort of thing has happened. Given the amount of R1b y chromosomes that are around europe, one supposed that the aryan invaders were taking multiple wives from the people they conquered. I havent researched it but I assume. But their white hybrid descendents have been enforcing monogamy for 2000 years at least. >You better bet their families began the arranged marriage process when the daughters got over the age figure you reported. You are overlooking the fact that many incels just joined the nunnery/monastary. You know, we lost a lot when we lost the church. We need a replacement institution. Obviously the values that you are most concerned about have been eroding because the church is largely gone from our lives. It was a natural place for men and women to be trained in what was expected from them and also a natural place to find prospective spouses. Im just obviously very against fathers being the only people with a say in who their daughters marry. That seems like lunacy to me. I think that like a lot of guys here, you assume the antidote to extreme feminism is extreme misogyny or extreme patriarchy and I would point out that that will have a lot of unintended consequences you haven’t considered.

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>ladies should not work

The claim was that they should not hold employment. Women have always worked in White societies. They raised children and did numerous other labors for the family. However, there is a good reason why never-married single women and married women were not allowed to own property until somewhat recent history. America got rid of it's coverture law in the 1820s, and that might have been one of the floodgates to letting (((them))) in throughout the late 1800s. Women should definitely work.

> giving males too much power in a society will lead to polygamy

Tacitus' Germania disagrees with you on this, mostly.

Whites are meant for monogamy and chastity before marriage, per Germania. Their traditional societies enforced this. A woman who wasn't a virgin was shaved and flogged publicly then never allowed to marry. Also the "head of the family" is leading it, the patriarch of a multigenerational household, being paterfamiliae in the original Latin.

>True but its been awhile since that sort of thing has happened.

True, but history repeats itself.

>You are overlooking the fact that many incels just joined the nunnery/monastary

Many whores and cucks will need to be in similar asylums or free helicopter rides.

> We need a replacement institution

Again, see Germania. Whites held themselves together in their multigenerational paterfamiliae for centuries before Charlemagne's line even forced Christianity on Whites through conquest. The solution is there. Arranged marriage and multigenerational households. Yes, in a society with values women will pair up with cihldhood friends and the "arrangement" will be a rubber stamp, but the arrangement for women and men seeking to "live life" with vice or put off marriage to 30 will still be an important check and balance on hypergamy and hedonism.

>Im just obviously very against fathers being the only people with a say in who their daughters marry

I, too, wish for a society where virtually every suitor out there deserves a woman wholly worthy of marriage (debt-free virgin without tattoos.) Arranged marriage (in a bad society) is the cradle for the stigmas that can rekindle such a White society.

> that that will have a lot of unintended consequences you haven’t considered

Whites were stable in paterfamiliae in the past. Whites can be again.

>>ladies should not work The claim was that they should not hold employment. Women have always worked in White societies. They raised children and did numerous other labors for the family. However, there is a good reason why never-married single women and married women were not allowed to own property until somewhat recent history. America got rid of it's coverture law in the 1820s, and that might have been one of the floodgates to letting (((them))) in throughout the late 1800s. Women should definitely work. >> giving males too much power in a society will lead to polygamy Tacitus' Germania disagrees with you on this, mostly. [The vast majority of Whites in Skyfather-worshipping Germany were monogamous. Maybe a chief took another political bride for political reasons, but not for just fucking.](http://www.crtpesaro.it/Materiali/Latino/De%20Origine%20Et%20Situ%20Germanorum.php) Whites are meant for monogamy and chastity before marriage, per Germania. Their traditional societies enforced this. A woman who wasn't a virgin was shaved and flogged publicly then never allowed to marry. Also the "head of the family" is leading it, the patriarch of a multigenerational household, being paterfamiliae in the original Latin. >>True but its been awhile since that sort of thing has happened. True, but history repeats itself. >>You are overlooking the fact that many incels just joined the nunnery/monastary Many whores and cucks will need to be in similar asylums or free helicopter rides. >> We need a replacement institution Again, see Germania. Whites held themselves together in their multigenerational paterfamiliae for centuries before Charlemagne's line even forced Christianity on Whites through conquest. The solution is there. Arranged marriage and multigenerational households. Yes, in a society with values women will pair up with cihldhood friends and the "arrangement" will be a rubber stamp, but the arrangement for women and men seeking to "live life" with vice or put off marriage to 30 will still be an important check and balance on hypergamy and hedonism. >>Im just obviously very against fathers being the only people with a say in who their daughters marry I, too, wish for a society where virtually every suitor out there deserves a woman wholly worthy of marriage (debt-free virgin without tattoos.) Arranged marriage (in a bad society) is the cradle for the stigmas that can rekindle such a White society. >> that that will have a lot of unintended consequences you haven’t considered Whites were stable in paterfamiliae in the past. Whites can be again.

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