Besides that the high temps seem to be an avoided topic when discussing AMD cpu's in favor of overclocking ability and unless your using the higher quality ram then the overclocking is not as high as they say it is and sometimes just a couple hundred mb's where as my intel is 2.7 and runs at 3.3 with no overclocking on the motherboard itself and the next cpu will be much higher ghz in turbo mode no overclocking needed.