> Yeah. People were hanged for exactly what they're doing now. muh "redirect to arguments about jews-vs-germans." A better analogy is the french reign of terror. Order and law vs chaos, infighting, and the 'circular firing squad'. Thats what happens when a civilization circles the wagons and retreats back to defensible positions because its overextended itself. Some of those positions, and the people manning them, get abandoned to the barbarians. The pull-out however, while geographic (and just getting started), is also cultural and institutional. What happens to those institutions abandoned by the regime, when those institutions become more trouble than they're worth? Theres your answer. Abandoned to the whims of political forces and circumstances. The anarchists always take the heads off when they go snake hunting. Happened to the czars. Happened in france. Only looks different this time because of complacency. So we get small fry like tibault or whatever the fuck his name is. And the insiders don't understand this isn't about current precedent, because otherwise it would just be a pressure release. No, its about *those*, much older precedents. They don't see it, because political destruction, like tornados, appears to be standing still whenever it is in fact heading right for something. Thats why the end always seems to be 'looming'. Its that tornado I mentioned, getting 'bigger', coming closer to realization. Nothing seems to happen, because it ain't heading left, or right, but instead straight for the very institutions that *didn't* circle the wagons. Just like romans too stupid to notice the legion pulling up stakes and leaving them behind in the outposts. "All is well. Maintain post. Situation normal." Right until its all fucked up.