Stalin and Hitler both agreed on this. Children are wards of the state and are not yours. Hitler had entire programs designed around this.
Thread confirms altident and the idiot's who up voted him don't even know about the topic. Lol.
You have no clue what Hitler Youth was about.
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I in fact do know about the Hitler birthing programs. Your comment implies you are not only talking out your ass, but ignorant of the very well documented eugenics programs amongst the German people. Where the children are most definitely wards of the state.
Lmao eugenics is one thing, acceptable children were not wards of the state
You can't be serious. Not only is the concept NoisySilence is speaking to far older than Adolf and Nazis' ideas, the Hitler Youth was unquestionably more citizens of State than children of given parents. Only someone with boundless ignorance would contend this, as it was a prominent criticism for decades following the fall of the Regime.
Jesus Christ you are brainwashed. Hitler Youth was practically a summer camp that taught nationalism. Pull your head out of your ass and do some learning beyond what the “victims”/winners of the war wrote down for you
The idea is far, far older than that. Even the ancient wise men spoke of The State's right and responsibility to educate children and build them as leaders of tomorrow, contributors to industry and innovators of technology, arts and philosophy. Socrates, as Plato describes, was one of the leaders of these ideas in Greece.
For the record, I don't exactly agree on this part. Children are a direct copy of the union of their parents. All men should have the autonomy to shape the path of new-self. Notice: I didn't say "all men and women."
I agree with you. Children should reflect their community. But they are their parents', first and foremost. Imoho, the answer is between.
Thank you for reasonable participation.
There's no right way or wrong way on this scale. It's got to be somewhere in between. The issue is full autonomy in parenthood isn't really established if you have an underlying framework set by government to facilitate a par for what children should be like and if we take the stance that children aren't property of State, then we should necessarily compel full autonomy of parents. It's too bad there's countless examples I can think of that extend past parents' competence: what if the parents birthed a genius and they don't have aptitudes required to mold him to his potential? What about if the parents die and they don't have family that can meet minimum criteria?
I don't really have a perfect answer for this and it's something I struggled with when reading The Republic. This, I suppose, is the essence of the ancients (and even less ancient) calling the mean vulgar. There's so much more to be said about this, but the sad reality is some of us have responsibility the others can't imagine and it truly does take genius to reconcile these complications.
For the record, I like to think I usually "reasonably participate". I think too many of you were always confused about why I challenge you or inspire you in ways that I have. Maybe one day you can appreciate the kinds of things I was helping you with.
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