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UBI is insane, not what Montana is doing. I just wanted to be clear about that.

UBI is insane, not what Montana is doing. I just wanted to be clear about that.

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"workers must be actively searching for a job to qualify for unemployment benefits."

This is of utmost importance; stick and carrot..

I don't know much about the US social security services, but personal audits and creation of a plan of how to return to the workforce of every single unemployed person is paramount, unless you want your country flooded with immigrants willing (and probably brown-) hands.. with the inevitable "cultural enrichment" as an added bonus.

There are always grey figures and factors in unemployment-statistics, as it's a quite diverse crowd.

It would be ridiculous to expect a MD to apply for a Walmart greeter-job immediately upon unemployment, however any healthy society should expect that the said (able to work-) MD at some point does have to accept ANY job or lose their government benefits.

Many in the figures are surely not anything but people who are able to work, but who can't be assed to, as the gibs me dats are too high, the requirements for recieving them are too lax and the incentive to get a job therefore just isn't there..

Montana is on the right track, that is if the initiative and legislation survives the following woke attack.

It surely will be cried out as both unfair and extremely stressful for the classic victims.. we all know who they are..

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I was on unemployment at one point when I was younger. The state required that I apply for X amount of jobs weekly and I took it pretty seriously only to find out they don't even verify whether you did or not.

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Same in Denmark, but bottom line is that they could find out if you're cheating and eventually you'll end up in a category, where they'll just place you somewhere likely undesireable..

Incentive to employment can be forced upon people and it should too; if you're able to contribute in any way, you owe it to society or at least to your fellow man..

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"workers must be actively searching for a job to qualify for unemployment benefits."

That's the wonderful thing about Capitalist systems, there will always be niche opportunities to make money and businesses will pop up like mushrooms to take advantage of said opportunities. The laws here are the same that you must "look" for work if you want the gibs but "recruitment" companies that never placed a single applicant into a job covered that loophole. Bum shows up to meet his requirement of looking for work and "recruitment agency" makes a false record that bum looked for work. "Recruitment agency" gets their fee from the Government and bum gets his check.

My personal philosophy is that if you don't work you don't eat but I'm a bit old school.

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The integrity of any system can never be stronger than the weakest link..

If the recruitment agencies are not at least spot-checked and validated regularily by a (dutiful) government body, then the system isn't reliable and definitely up for revision or renewal.

Being somewhat oldschool myself, i can sympathize with the "don't work, don't eat" to some extent.

A absolute legend of Danish politics, Mogens Glistrup, once publicly announced in his campaign to become Danish PM, that he wanted to scrap the social security system and put up oatmeal-automatrons instead..

His party won by a landslide, but the establishment held onto power, forming a minority-government out of sheer fear of this guy.. which probably was somewhat warranted:

Among the partys agendas, was the more or less total dismantlement of the existing system and asked what his title would be in government, he replied: " i'll be Minister for the dismantling of the public sector"..

Uh, sidetracked..

My understanding of basic human rights in a western society is the following: Food in the stomach, roof over your head, clothes on your body and no gibs me dats.. you work for any extras.

Context of the above: i'm a citizen in Denmark; a country provinding ample "gibs" to any and every citizen: social security for everyone, free healthcare and free education.. err, edit that last one; society provides 11 ys. of (obligatory) free school and will pay you to educate yourself further. Ie: you can obtain a university-degree/doctorate for free and will be paid throughout the entiety of this effort..

Don't ask me why i'm not all for third world freeloaders; it should be obvious..