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Actually 2020 is not 'pretty average'. If you total the numbers for the 10 counties with complete data there is an increase in mortality rates from about .93% (in the years immediately preceding 2020) to 1.01% in 2020, or a 8.6% increase in a single year. The US alone went up about 13%.

These are not huge increases but none the less significant I think. Now the question is why?

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While fatality rates are very slightly up in the U.S. they are still lower than the German long term average; also (since the deaths aren't categorized by type) you are including suicides and overdoses, both of which were on the rise in 2020.

The guy who is compiling all of this data has been posting these stats for a couple of weeks now and (as soon as reliable numbers come in) making autistic charts and graphs. Due to many requests he made that website to put it all in one place.

Across the board deaths are not up at a catastrophic rate so what's up with literally locking down the entire planet by force and decree. That's the real question.

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It's been years since I did any statistics so I'm not even going to begin to try to figure out what a statistically significant amount is here, but IMO anything over 10% is worth a second look especially since no other years showed such a marked change. But you're right, the cause of death is the real important piece of data here and we just don't know. I hear that suicides are up but haven't seen the data to support it. And besides with all the crazy rumors of any and everything -- including suicides -- being attributed to Covid how do we know what we can believe?

But let's say that 10% of the increase is directly the result of Covid. Does that justify shutting down the planet? Not as far as I'm concerned, not by a long shot. And it's certainly much less than 10%.

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I disagree with you on one thing but agree with you on the other.

Since the cause of death numbers are both incorrect and homosexual the ONLY number that you can use to make an assessment is total fatalities. Those numbers are much, much harder to fake so we work with what we have. GIGO applies here as it always does. There actually was a breakdown posted on the John Hopkins internal server that did all of those calculations (by category) and it showed that for every type of normal disease the numbers went down in a direct correlation to the number rise for chink flu. Surprisingly, it got pulled down pretty quickly.

Strike that, I just checked and the page is archived at the Wayback Machine, you just have to wait quite a while for it to load:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126171832/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

Now onto the other point that I totally agree with. When you are looking at a percent rise of y/y fatalities (or decline for that matter) you are actually discussing a minuscule number in relation to the general population... average death rate is what? 2%? 3%? What is 12% of 3%?

Strike that as well, I just looked it up and in 2018 North America had a total of 3.14 million deaths recorded or less than 1%

https://ourworldindata.org/births-and-deaths

To put this in historical perspective, during the Black Plague many Capitol cities in Europe had fatality rates of 60%. Not 60% of the people infected... 60% of the entire population while some smaller municipalities were 100% kill and were wiped off of the map. If the CCP had been able to create something that was doing that then sure, lockdowns might make sense, even at say 10% you could possibly make an argument for masks at least but at 12% of 1%???!???!

Get the fuck right out of town.