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Let me preface by saying that if you’re going to attack me for asking an honest question, then you’re a big reason why people like me who just want the real truth - whatever it is - get frustrated and just stop looking at some point.

That said, I think it’s fairly obvious (((who))) is behind a lot of terrible things in this country and worldwide. I mean, to realize this only requires a bare minimum amount of research and just paying attention to who controls all of the most evil organizations.

So, things that are happening in real time today are fairly easy to check out since we’re in the Information Age and all.

But, the past is tougher to investigate. As they say “history is written by the winners”.

I was born in the early 80’s, so wasn’t around for WWII or even Vietnam. I was in grade school during desert storm and college during 9/11.

The only access I’ve had to any real war vets from that era was a cousin of one of my grandfathers, who was at Pearl Harbor the day it was bombed by the Japs. He obviously survived and subsequently fought in the pacific theater as a pilot during the war. Real great guy, I always like him a lot and looked forward to visiting him in Florida when I was a kid. He would take us to the naval museum and always had great stories. Hated Obama and was a true patriot till the day he died.

Anyhow, here’s my question.. I have never heard of an American WWII vet who straight out said anything remotely close to “the holocaust didn’t actually happen.”

So this is what I’m having a hard time wrapping my brain around..if it didn’t happen, then wouldn’t literal thousands of American troops be coming home after that war and saying so?

And mind you, I’m not even trying to get into the question of whether or not anything the Germans did or didn’t do was morally right or wrong. That’s an entirely different discussion.

I’m simply asking how is it that thousands of troops who were actually there didn’t come home saying that the death camps were a fabrication, if in fact they were?

Or perhaps thousands did come home saying so and I’ve just never met one or even come across one of their descendants? Seems unlikely, but I’m open minded enough to hear any argument.

These people would have certainly told their sons “yeah that was all bullshit”, who would have then told their sons, and so on. But to my knowledge, this hasn’t happened at all.

So, anyone have an answer as to how such a ruse could be pulled off to the degree that so many of our own ancestors apparently were “seeing things that weren’t there?”

Again, I just want the truth, whatever it may be. If someone is going to preach the message that the holocaust was fake, then invariably they would have to answer this question at some point, right? I have to imagine many of you already have an answer to this question, I’m simply asking what that answer is.

EDIT: if anyone has any good links to documentaries or something, please share.

Let me preface by saying that if you’re going to attack me for asking an honest question, then you’re a big reason why people like me who just want the real truth - whatever it is - get frustrated and just stop looking at some point. That said, I think it’s fairly obvious (((who))) is behind a lot of terrible things in this country and worldwide. I mean, to realize this only requires a bare minimum amount of research and just paying attention to who controls all of the most evil organizations. So, things that are happening in real time today are fairly easy to check out since we’re in the Information Age and all. But, the past is tougher to investigate. As they say “history is written by the winners”. I was born in the early 80’s, so wasn’t around for WWII or even Vietnam. I was in grade school during desert storm and college during 9/11. The only access I’ve had to any real war vets from that era was a cousin of one of my grandfathers, who was at Pearl Harbor the day it was bombed by the Japs. He obviously survived and subsequently fought in the pacific theater as a pilot during the war. Real great guy, I always like him a lot and looked forward to visiting him in Florida when I was a kid. He would take us to the naval museum and always had great stories. Hated Obama and was a true patriot till the day he died. Anyhow, here’s my question.. I have never heard of an American WWII vet who straight out said anything remotely close to “the holocaust didn’t actually happen.” So this is what I’m having a hard time wrapping my brain around..if it didn’t happen, then wouldn’t literal thousands of American troops be coming home after that war and saying so? And mind you, I’m not even trying to get into the question of whether or not anything the Germans did or didn’t do was morally right or wrong. That’s an entirely different discussion. I’m simply asking how is it that thousands of troops who were actually there didn’t come home saying that the death camps were a fabrication, if in fact they were? Or perhaps thousands did come home saying so and I’ve just never met one or even come across one of their descendants? Seems unlikely, but I’m open minded enough to hear any argument. These people would have certainly told their sons “yeah that was all bullshit”, who would have then told their sons, and so on. But to my knowledge, this hasn’t happened at all. So, anyone have an answer as to how such a ruse could be pulled off to the degree that so many of our own ancestors apparently were “seeing things that weren’t there?” Again, I just want the truth, whatever it may be. If someone is going to preach the message that the holocaust was fake, then invariably they would have to answer this question at some point, right? I have to imagine many of you already have an answer to this question, I’m simply asking what that answer is. EDIT: if anyone has any good links to documentaries or something, please share.

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1) they (some, few) have. (see 5, 6, 9) 2) the holocaust narrative didn't start until many many many years after the holocaust (edit) WW2 3) the (((nuremberg))) trials were completely ran by jews and any soldier that questioned them were jew discharged 4) most German men were tortured and killed by the Americans and other (((allied))) forces. 5) due to 3 and 4 along with the immense area in which the war took place no soldier could say "yeah well I ws in literally all those places so nope" so they didn't. 6) questioning higher ups in the (((military))). Are you dumb? 7) So your "question" is a blatantly dishonest question? "So, anyone have an answer as to how such a ruse could be pulled off to the degree that so many of our own ancestors apparently were “seeing things that weren’t there?”" Because that didn't happen. The allied troops didn't EVER come home and say "that happened". So... why are you lying? Why are you trying to act like an innocent and naive person willing to learn ("Let me preface by saying that if you’re going to attack me for asking an honest question, then you’re a big reason why people like me who just want the real truth - whatever it is - get frustrated and just stop looking at some point.") only to cement your wanton learning with a blatant lie? 8) 0 evidence, anywhere, of anything. 9) question the idea in most places on Earth and you're jailed for decades.

I have 3 easy questions for you. 1) Are there any good jews? 2) Which economic system do jews fear? 3) Which religion is the most anti-jew faith there is?

e; But of course OP is a Quck who pushes the idea of (((divorce))).

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Exactly what I would hope didn’t happen, but then again I’m not exactly surprised by your bullshit response full of insults instead of simply answering the question.

To that point, you did answer the question to a decent degree, but of course because it’s you, you couldn’t bring yourself to finish your comment without a string of insults.

And that right there is why you have such a difficult time waking people who have literally been brainwashed their entire lives, as 98% of us have been. You aren’t actually interested in providing information or winning anyone over, are you? You’re EXACTLY LIKE THE OTHER SIDE WHO YOU CLAIM TO DESPISE in that all you really want is to punish anyone who questions your narrative..instead of you know, simply explaining why you believe what you believe.

The fact of the matter is that if I am going to bring an argument for something to someone who has either A) never heard it or B) has been firmly inoculated against it via brainwashing, then it stands to reason that I need to have my facts straight before that conversation is to take place.

Because unlike you, I’m actually interested in winning hearts and minds for the cause of American freedom, not sitting in my basement bitching and crying non stop about how much I hate the world, and then taking out my frustrations on people who actually want to contribute more than I am willing to.

Which, by the way, makes me 1000x more valuable to a freedom movement than some crotchety basement dwelling fuck like you because you’d rather stroke your own pathetic ego than actually do anything to actually win.

My question is simply a fact finding mission for both my own edification and so that if/when I have such a discussion with someone, it is actually fruitful.

Now, regarding your completely retarded AF conjecture about “questioning military superiors”… read my original post again, you illiterate fucktard. If a soldier came home after the war and gets out of the military as many did, then HE WOULD BE FREE TO TELL THE TRUTH OF HIS EXPERIENCE to people, especially his own progeny. No one, certainly not I, said a fucking thing about “questioning military superiors” except for YOUR DUMB ASS. Don’t put words in my mouth, ever, you fucking troglodyte.

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2) the holocaust narrative didn't start until many many many years after the holocaust (edit) WW2

this is false. there were several newspapers printed long before ww2 that specifically mentioned the 6 million number as well as references to a "holocaust"

8) 0 evidence, anywhere, of anything.

they found small traces of the gas on the walls. the revisionist explanation is that these rooms were used for delousing, which makes sense because the amounts found were minimal. either way, saying "0 evidence" is bullshit. if we stoop to outright lies, we are no better than they are.

9) question the idea in most places on Earth and you're jailed for decades.

this is probably the most compelling proof that its full of deceit. if it was obvious and full of evidence they wouldn't need laws to ban speech about it.

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this is false. there were several newspapers printed long before ww2 that specifically mentioned the 6 million number as well as references to a "holocaust"

Different holocausts and decades prior. I've posted this before. So those aren't the WW2 fake and for you to claim they were and my statement is false is not only wrong it's jewish.

https://mega.nz/folder/6P40VDDI#qROq9KnbhQo4abfzaC_MtQ WW2 starts 1939 by the way. But (((you))) knew that.

they found small traces of the gas on the walls. the revisionist explanation is that these rooms were used for delousing, which makes sense because the amounts found were minimal. either way, saying "0 evidence" is bullshit. if we stoop to outright lies, we are no better than they are.

You're just being jewish now. There was never any denial that zyklon b, a delousing agent was used. You present evidence that supports delousing as the reason for the existence of irrelevant amounts on the wall but you ignore the wooden doors, the holes in the doors, the holes in the ceilings etc. Why are you picking and choosing and only picking the jew narrative.

You're lying, splitting differences while ignoring facts, inserting your own jewish narrative and then "hurrrrrr you're right." all you're doing is attempting to slide the narrative.

@The_Real_Johnny_Ninja I forgot to confirm, answer my 3 questions please. @putinisinnocent answer them as well please. 1) Are there any good jews? 2) Which economic system do jews fear? 3) Which religion is the most anti-jew faith there is?

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The newspapers before mentioned holocausts of 6 million victims you dumb fuck. This means they were pushing that narrative long before ww2, essentially grooming the population for what coincidentally would happen in the near future

The claim was that gas was used. They found gas on the walls. This could be considered evidence for them. I personally think it was for delousing but it doesn’t change the fact that gas was found and supports their narrative

It’s not Jewish to acknowledge their arguments so that they can be countered but keeping calling people Jews for pointing out basic shit. Ironically your tactics are the same as Jews do when accusing people of muh antisemitisms rather than honestly engage in the discussion instead of getting all butthurt about it