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  1. If you shoot a 50 cal at an armor plate, it'll pierce it and keep going. Shoot same 50 cal at a pool. Less than a foot in, the bullet explodes and disappears. Medium being shot is relevant, and drywall is not an amalgam for human or living targets.

  2. That's a risk everyone takes when discharging. Different states are more or less understanding of that risk.

  3. That's why I LEFT that area. It has nothing to do with more or less powerful desire for weapons. And to that "powerful" point, if power is what people want, why aren't they just using a .454 cassul or .50 mag?

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You said over penetration was an issue, I said it's irrelevant because no matter what caliber, you're going through multiple walls. You said if you hit a body it stops, I said when has a self defense shooting had 100% accuracy. If they didn't hit the person, then they likely hit a wall and we are back at the point of it doesn't matter what caliber it is, it's going through the wall.

Communist kikes have you believing 5.7 over penetration is bad but ignoring your shots on target are through the roof because it's has almost no recoil while also naturally defeating most armor provided to leos.

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Over penetration is an issue depending on round. Hell: a 9mm hard ball can over penetration. It's why hollow points exist. 22lr when shot at a wet target end up in said target. 5.7, in default bullet config, goes through and through by design. Do they make soft point hollow points, yes, but the default ammo was designed for speed and 3a body armor penetration.

Again, over penetration IS a concern in some applications, and your ignoring that. I never said that it was THE issue. But I'm general, there are rounds that can do the exact same thing (kill or incapacitated) without the risk of the bullet making a through and through shot. Even in 5.56, it's bullets are designed to tumble in the target for maximum damage. If pass though was so great, hollow points soft points etc wouldn't exist.

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I spelled it out and this is the third iteration of the same point again. I'm out.