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I'm watching the 90s heist movie "Heat". It has a running gun battle with automatic weapons in the streets of LA, and the gunshots in the movie echo about as much as I'd expect at an indoor range.

I know what lots of gunfire sounds like indoors, and out in a field, but I've never had the misfortune to hear gunfire in a downtown area with lots of concrete and buildings to echo gunshots.

Is "almost as much echoing as an i door range" an accurate representation of gunfire in a dense urban area, or did they screw up and record their gunshots indoors and hope their audience wouldnt know any better?

I'm watching the 90s heist movie "Heat". It has a running gun battle with automatic weapons in the streets of LA, and the gunshots in the movie echo about as much as I'd expect at an indoor range. I know what lots of gunfire sounds like indoors, and out in a field, but I've never had the misfortune to hear gunfire in a downtown area with lots of concrete and buildings to echo gunshots. Is "almost as much echoing as an i door range" an accurate representation of gunfire in a dense urban area, or did they screw up and record their gunshots indoors and hope their audience wouldnt know any better?

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Those are real echoes in the movie. Michael Mann prefers the real stuff over dubbing later because it's so rare in film, it causes the audience to really feel it.

He did the same thing in Collateral, when Tom Cruise takes on the tweakers in the alley. (btw, Cruise really did that, it wasn't CGI or a stunt double. He drew and fired 5 (blank) rounds in less than 2 seconds.)

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Thanks! It was definitely more immersive to see real guns with real weight, cycling, casings being ejected, etc than the Hollywood norm of plastic props and adding everything in post.

Normies may not know the difference, but if you shoot regularely the completely echoless gunshots, lack of recoil, and lack of metallic shine on wear points looks wrong.

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For that big gunfight scene, they actually used the on scene audio of the blank gunfire because they forgot to turn on the sound recording equipment. So I guess it does echo that much.

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Enough that chicago removed the shotspotters because they're apparently racist

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It depends where the microphone is in relation to the gunfire, and how close the concrete walls are to the mic as well. Sound levels drop off really fast with not much distance. Even a foot makes a huge difference.