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Handgun rounds are not fight stoppers unless you have good shot placement. Rifles are fight stoppers. Handguns poke holes in targets. They don't have enough energy to injure with their temporary cavity. Rifles create giant holes in people. The point of your handgun is to get to your rifle. Exception for the 460 S&W I guess.

45 is not better than 9mm against body armor. It's all about sectional density and velocity. When you get a round that has decent mass behind its frontal surface area up above 1700 fps it starts to go through soft body armor. You have to use light for caliber bullets to do that out of most handguns.

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Idk man, I've seen a shitload of shooting videos. Handguns drop people with a single shot to the torso almost 100% of the time.

Rifle shots to the torso, whether it's 5.56 or 7.62, ALWAYS put a guy down. They might get back up, but I've never seen a shootout video where a man wearing a rifle bullet in the stomach did anything other than try to flee. Have you watched any of the combat footage out of the Ukraine? Most of those guys are shooting 7.62 at each other, and holy shit is it effective. A single round to pretty much any spot on the torso is a crippling or mortal wound.

I have seen videos where guys catch 3 or more bullets from handguns, fall over or stumble, and then return fire, awake for at least a little while longer.

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This dataset clearly has issues, but

Rifles and shotguns are vastly superior to all handguns.

~10-15% of assailants don't stop regardless of the number of shots. This is why militaries have drills to follow up with head or pelvic shots if the center of mass shots do not drop them.