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I posted the same thing a few days ago. Guns are a cash heavy business, even before this bullshit. Even back during the ammo shortage that Barry engineered, people were paying cash for what they could get. I saw armed security guards at the registers at a Calbella's because cashiers were routinely handling $1000+ transactions in cash.

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Problem is that guns and ammo are almost double price in the local gun store compared to online.

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So go to a local store and ask if you can have a firearm shipped to them to do the 4473. Many of them will try to match the price.

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Ammo is my bigger issue. I'm good on guns for now. Can't have anything shipped to them without paying for it first.

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So FJB is trying to support local businesses now?

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They're trying to push us into local businesses because then the local jurisdictions can pass their own laws restricting gun and ammo sales and create registries.

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They need to update the law. The current law is that the federal government cannot create a gun registry. So now the federal government is having businesses create the registry. They need to update the law to prohibit the federal government or any federal contractor from USING any gun registry for any purpose. They need to make violations prosecutable in federal court by any United States citizen, and remove qualified immunity from government employees who violate it.

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Like laws are followed by the gov nowadays...

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That's the reason for making it enforceable by any US citizen. If you see any federal government agency using a registry of gun or ammo purchases for any reason you can walk your ass down to the nearest federal court and file a case to collect yourself $100,000 in penalties.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

dude, the "president" is a pedophile. we don't live in a society of laws anymore.

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That's the same sort of thing they did with Twitter. Twitter was banning people critical of the administration, but the white house was telling them to do it. So technically not the government, but directed by it.

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Unfortunately this should have happened 30/40 years ago

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it has to get into the mind the reality that cash is freedom

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That's big business credit card companies are missing out on.

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Especially in the current social climate. Conversely, the gun shops are saving ~3% with every cash transaction by eliminating the middlemen moneychangers.

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Good point on the transaction fees.

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Well, that sucks. I like to order guns online and have them delivered to a local FFL holder who transfers them to me for a small fee. How are we going to get around this shit?

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Local Credit Unions? IDK if they are forced to report transactions like banks. Credit unions offer debit cards, can do wire transfers, etc.

Bitcoin if the dealer accepts.

Gold/silver if the dealer accepts (but you probably have to transact in person).

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Online stores will start accepting bitcoin / digital currency. I know the thoughts several here have of the blockchain, but it's still better than a CC.

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They can't see what you bought only where for now. I worked at a big box outdoor retailer and you could spend thousands of dollars and not buy a single bullet. But the store could still be marked as a gun shop in the system simply because they list it that way. Places like Wal-Mart could be listed as gun shops.

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There is always a possibility the box stores (Cabela's, LL Bean, Dick's, ...) could create and run an additional script at the end of each day that sorts through the UPCs of all products sold, spits out that day's gun purchases complete with any buyer info collected and entered into their system at the time of purchase and send it off to the Feds. I wouldn't put it past them with this regime. I'll stick with 2A loving mom and pop gun stores and use cash to eliminate this possibility.

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There is also the possibility that all gun stores begin to self identify as sex shops.

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Every purchase is already illegally run through an FBI database, prior to purchasing. You also are now forced to check with your city and obtain permission if you're considering buying.

The fucking war was lost when these 2 became "normal".

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Fortunately for me, all of my gun purchases have been local private sales. Plenty of guns in my area. Very few murders.

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Why the fuck would you buy anything with a credit card that you don't want anyone else to know about ? I'm wondering if fucking drug dealers take c.c.'s too.

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I think the recreational and medicinal pot stores in my state take CCs. They usually have an ATM too for the risk averse.

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guns aren't the problem... it's ammo.

Getting ammo locally is retarded-expensive.

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They already can cross reference gun stores against their POS sales. This would only make a big difference in brick and mortar stores that sell groceries and ammo under the same roof.