large game ammo is at least $2 a shot now. so ya. get a 22
large game ammo is at least $2 a shot now. so ya. get a 22
30-06 for deer hunting = Remington 700 in one of it's many flavors.
Ruger 10/22 are fun for plinking.
If say ditch the venison, head south, find a private hunting camp where you can bag some wild pork.
Jmo
30-06 for deer hunting = Remington 700 in one of it's many flavors.
Ruger 10/22 are fun for plinking.
If say ditch the venison, head south, find a private hunting camp where you can bag some wild pork.
Jmo
A 22lr is a must have. Especially when introducing shooting to others.
As for rifles and hunting, figure out where and what you're hunting. 50-150 yard shots on white tail is a very different thing from 300 yard elk or moose shots.
For things like medium size game and short distances (50-150 yard shots), don't discount 30-30 or 300 blackout (pretty close ballistics). The nice thing about 300 blackout is that it gets you into an AR frame where you need only change the barrel (easy change with whole upper assembly) and you've got 5.56. Same mags and lower and trigger and so on.
If you're going after larger game, something in 30-06 or 308 is a good option. Unless you're shooting past 400 yards (I doubt, especially for hunting), you really don't need anything special. It's when you're reaching out 500-1200 yards when you need higher end gear. Optics alone gets pricey.
What is it you want to hunt and the terrain and expected shooting distances?
A 22lr is a must have. Especially when introducing shooting to others.
As for rifles and hunting, figure out where and what you're hunting. 50-150 yard shots on white tail is a very different thing from 300 yard elk or moose shots.
For things like medium size game and short distances (50-150 yard shots), don't discount 30-30 or 300 blackout (pretty close ballistics). The nice thing about 300 blackout is that it gets you into an AR frame where you need only change the barrel (easy change with whole upper assembly) and you've got 5.56. Same mags and lower and trigger and so on.
If you're going after larger game, something in 30-06 or 308 is a good option. Unless you're shooting past 400 yards (I doubt, especially for hunting), you really don't need anything special. It's when you're reaching out 500-1200 yards when you need higher end gear. Optics alone gets pricey.
What is it you want to hunt and the terrain and expected shooting distances?
Thanks for the info. I knew jumping into this, I had a lot to learn and consider. I only glanced at the AR platform to see prices around $1500, though I love the flexibility. I will take a closer look at the options.
At this point and for the next couple years, a >200 yard shot is highly unlikely, so for hunting (deer or smaller for now) I could just pick up a 20 gauge for my son and 22s for target practice. I suppose I was looking for something that we could use for target practice and hunting and settled on those two guns.
I am still learning about when to use the different ammo. I read some articles about using the 243 for small-medium game like coyotes/deer and the 30-06 didn't seem much bigger, so I figured we would have our bases covered between the two.
Thanks for the info. I knew jumping into this, I had a lot to learn and consider. I only glanced at the AR platform to see prices around $1500, though I love the flexibility. I will take a closer look at the options.
At this point and for the next couple years, a >200 yard shot is highly unlikely, so for hunting (deer or smaller for now) I could just pick up a 20 gauge for my son and 22s for target practice. I suppose I was looking for something that we could use for target practice and hunting and settled on those two guns.
I am still learning about when to use the different ammo. I read some articles about using the 243 for small-medium game like coyotes/deer and the 30-06 didn't seem much bigger, so I figured we would have our bases covered between the two.
For that type of hunting, something like 300 blackout or 30-30 are great options. My brother deer and hog hunts with 300 blkout. Longest is around 120 yards. No problems. And that will get you into an AR frame.
A 30-30 lever will get you a cheaper entry and is equally effective at these ranges. A nice 4x or 6x is plenty, if you want optics.
Use the 22lr for practice and skill development. Something like a marlin 795 (iirc) for out of box accuracy or 10/22 if you plan to customize or go fancy.
Pretty easy to dress most things up.
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Imoho, shotguns with 00 or slug are great when dinner on the table depends on it. It is old school for a reason. Otherwise use a rifle and develop those skills.
For that type of hunting, something like 300 blackout or 30-30 are great options. My brother deer and hog hunts with 300 blkout. Longest is around 120 yards. No problems. And that will get you into an AR frame.
A 30-30 lever will get you a cheaper entry and is equally effective at these ranges. A nice 4x or 6x is plenty, if you want optics.
Use the 22lr for practice and skill development. Something like a marlin 795 (iirc) for out of box accuracy or 10/22 if you plan to customize or go fancy.
Pretty easy to dress most things up.
https://www.boydsgunstocks.com
Imoho, shotguns with 00 or slug are great when dinner on the table depends on it. It is old school for a reason. Otherwise use a rifle and develop those skills.
I have a AR in .450 Bushmaster will take any large game in N America under 200 yards.
I have a AR in .450 Bushmaster will take any large game in N America under 200 yards.
I bet! What does that cost to pull the trigger?
I bet! What does that cost to pull the trigger?
20 rounds is like 40 bucks or so. Whats great is when we had the buying surge during the riots. Ammo was gone. Except .450 Bushmaster haha!
20 rounds is like 40 bucks or so. Whats great is when we had the buying surge during the riots. Ammo was gone. Except .450 Bushmaster haha!
22lr will save you a ton of cash. Ruger 10/22's are great, look into the "takedown". It's good for a go bag.
Also, look into Tikka rifles. They are cheap and extremely accurate out of the box.
.308 is way more available than 30-06. Creedmore is also a super accurate round that's getting more popular. Might want to reconsider the 30-06. If I was going 30-06 I'ld just up it to 300 WinMag.
22lr will save you a ton of cash. Ruger 10/22's are great, look into the "takedown". It's good for a go bag.
Also, look into Tikka rifles. They are cheap and extremely accurate out of the box.
.308 is way more available than 30-06. Creedmore is also a super accurate round that's getting more popular. Might want to reconsider the 30-06. If I was going 30-06 I'ld just up it to 300 WinMag.
Just fyi, creedmore doesn't have advantage over 7.62, in general, unless shooting > 600 meters.
Just fyi, creedmore doesn't have advantage over 7.62, in general, unless shooting > 600 meters.
Theres really no need to shoot a .300 win mag for whitetail, and this guy being new to rifles and hunting, i dont expect hes going to be shooting far. And a gun like that, even a grown man that is relatively new to shooting rifles is likely to develop a flinch if thats what he tries to learn on.
Theres really no need to shoot a .300 win mag for whitetail, and this guy being new to rifles and hunting, i dont expect hes going to be shooting far. And a gun like that, even a grown man that is relatively new to shooting rifles is likely to develop a flinch if thats what he tries to learn on.
I got a relative that strictly uses 300 win. mag. I can't beat his groups. That round is exceptional.
I got a relative that strictly uses 300 win. mag. I can't beat his groups. That round is exceptional.
its a good cartridge for bigger game or longer distances, if youre capable of shooting it. It definitely has its place. But its absolutely unnecessary for whitetail inside 200 yards, and not good for a new shooter. Just because a guy has a 300wm that shoots great doesnt mean everybody should use a 300wm for everything. What sorts of big game hunting do you do?
its a good cartridge for bigger game or longer distances, if youre capable of shooting it. It definitely has its place. But its absolutely unnecessary for whitetail inside 200 yards, and not good for a new shooter. Just because a guy has a 300wm that shoots great doesnt mean everybody should use a 300wm for everything. What sorts of big game hunting do you do?
If youe having trouble finding what you want, consider different calibers. For shooting whitetail at normal distances lots of common cartridges will work. .308, .270, .7mm-08, 6.5 manbun, look around and see whats available.
Also, my personal recommendation for firearm selection, savage lightweight storm. But thats just me. Very accurate, very light, not very expensive.
If youe having trouble finding what you want, consider different calibers. For shooting whitetail at normal distances lots of common cartridges will work. .308, .270, .7mm-08, 6.5 manbun, look around and see whats available.
Also, my personal recommendation for firearm selection, savage lightweight storm. But thats just me. Very accurate, very light, not very expensive.
Maybe also look into a crossbow and bow and arrow. Different challenge may help you with aiming.
Maybe also look into a crossbow and bow and arrow. Different challenge may help you with aiming.
Sks. Fun and cheap to shoot like a 22 but not gay like a 22
Sks. Fun and cheap to shoot like a 22 but not gay like a 22
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