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OR Could I buy these to and slap them together to build a pistol for $359? https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pistol-lower-build-kit-with-adjustable-sb-tactical-brace-black-5165448118.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-1-7-nitride-upper-w-o-bcg-or-ch-507020.html This would be just for fun. No purpose in mind.

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Your parts would still need a finished lower and a BCG/charging handle.

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Thanks for pointing that out! It's the middle part. I see what you mean now. Okay back to the drawing board.

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You need a lower receiver with the freedom kit anyways. Either a stripped finished receiver shipped to an FFL etc (reeeeee no step!), or you get the jig and a blank lower and mill one out yourself for the true hashtag ghost gun.

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80% is the way to go and it forces you to learn how your rifle works

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Well, technically I have a very good router. I'd be looking at $279 for the jig https://www.5dtactical.com/multiplatform-80-lower-jig-p/40105-mp.htm

Do you have one you recommend that may be less and still do the job?

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I have that upper though with 11.5 barrel and a carry handle. Shoots just fine for my HEAT larping.

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Careful with making a rifle into a pistol, it is illegal. It's a rabbit hole you need to learn about and understand before putting together such a thing.

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Oh I'm well aware how insane it is. You won't find any videos or pics of me shouldering a pistol at all! Who needs 10 years in prison + a life time ban. No one!

For those who are just looking and don't know: https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/ar-rifle-pistol-brace.jpg

https://www.smithandwessonforums.com/attachments/uiawyss-1615133-jpg.483975/

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I'm sure your daughter will love it, you going to paint it pink first?

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I'm building one with a 6.69" barrel for his daughter.

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Ha ha ha yeah this is just for fun.

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Wouldnt be a pistol with a 16" barrel. Also youll still need a lower receiver

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Nope... Long barreled pistol is GTG.

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If its over 26" oal, its not

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You misunderstand the 26" OAL section. 26" OAL is the ATF's magical determination for "concealable".

ATF uses "handgun" for pistol or revolver designed or intended to be fired from 1 hand. A handgun can't have a vertical foregrip or it makes it an AOW. An AOW has to be less than 26" OAL because an AOW is "concealable".

Also, a pistol is always a pistol and a rifle is always a rifle...

Therefore a pistol or revolver that has a 30" barrel added is always a pistol, just not a concealable one. Since it's not a rifle, can't be an AOW, it's still a pistol... Unless you add a vertical fore grip, then it becomes a "firearm" since it's no longer designed or intended to be fired from 1 hand.

Clear as mud I know.

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The top link is the 16" regular AR the bottom parts was what I thought I could make into a legal pistol but looks like I goofed & am missing the lower receiver which IAMTheOptimizer pointed out.

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Still, 16" is too long to be a pistol. That pistol lower parts kit, basically all that differentiates it from a rifle lower parts kit, is that it has a pistol brace rather than a stock. 16" barrel is still rifle length. Need a shorter barrel to be classified as a pistol, and there is a maximum oal which does not include muzzle devices. So if you bought a lower receiver, that pistol lower parts kit, and an upper with say an 11.5" barrel, youll have a pistol. But if you put that short 11.5 barrel upper onto a rifle lower, like regular stock, youve just illegally manufactured an sbr, and youll get thrown in nigger university.

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I think he gets that. Seems like he's thinking either freedom carbine kit, or pistol kit. Both setups he linked need receivers so he'd be (((legal))) however he initially assembles it.

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Yeah, I know I put two totally different guns up as options. I was on the fence on options for a similar price range. The link the post was to an AR-15, the bottom two was to build a Pistol but I forgot about the receiver part. If you click on it you will see it's just a 10.5 https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-1-7-nitride-upper-w-o-bcg-or-ch-507020.html

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You could go buy a lower for like 60$ if you wanted.