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It's time bayonets are encouraged for all carrying and self defense.

Lefties are always talking about how scary muh Assault Rifle 15 is. The rifle is so scary and that's what makes it deadly. It should be scarier. It should be fucking terrifying.

Kyle Rittenhouse was open carrying a rifle yet that didn't stop multiple people from assaulting him and winding up dead. Obviously those fucking morons didn't understand the danger of a rifle. Obviously the rifle isn't scary enough because it wasn't scary enough to get it through the thick skulls of those fucking morons not to fucking attack someone with a rifle. Those fucking idiots completely ignored the rifle he was carrying and attacked him and wound up dead.

I think this demonstrates the need for bayonets in situations like this. Despite a rifle being way deadlier than a knife, fucking morons cannot properly comprehend how dangerous it is. They will happily chase after someone with a gun with zero self preservation because they don't understand how deadly a gun is. They are motivated to throw a skateboard at someone with a gun because they don't understand that guns are dangerous and so they get shot.

However, I believe if you stuck a big pointy knife at the end of it, even the absolute dumbest single digit morons could understand that "knife sharp, me no like that". Even the slimiest manlet jew will think twice about grabbing someone's gun if it has a big pointy knife at the end of it that he would cut himself on if he tried to grab it. I believe that a bayonet would be better visually perceived as dangerous. Obviously a rifle on its own is not enough. I think that knives provide an easier to understand visual threat of danger and so would better deter someone from engaging in a violent altercation and would therefore be safer for everyone.

It's time bayonets are encouraged for all carrying and self defense. Lefties are always talking about how scary muh Assault Rifle 15 is. The rifle is so scary and that's what makes it deadly. It should be scarier. It should be fucking terrifying. Kyle Rittenhouse was open carrying a rifle yet that didn't stop multiple people from assaulting him and winding up dead. Obviously those fucking morons didn't understand the danger of a rifle. Obviously the rifle isn't scary enough because it wasn't scary enough to get it through the thick skulls of those fucking morons not to fucking attack someone with a rifle. Those fucking idiots completely ignored the rifle he was carrying and attacked him and wound up dead. I think this demonstrates the need for bayonets in situations like this. Despite a rifle being way deadlier than a knife, fucking morons cannot properly comprehend how dangerous it is. They will happily chase after someone with a gun with zero self preservation because they don't understand how deadly a gun is. They are motivated to throw a skateboard at someone with a gun because they don't understand that guns are dangerous and so they get shot. However, I believe if you stuck a big pointy knife at the end of it, even the absolute dumbest single digit morons could understand that "knife sharp, me no like that". Even the slimiest manlet jew will think twice about grabbing someone's gun if it has a big pointy knife at the end of it that he would cut himself on if he tried to grab it. I believe that a bayonet would be better visually perceived as dangerous. Obviously a rifle on its own is not enough. I think that knives provide an easier to understand visual threat of danger and so would better deter someone from engaging in a violent altercation and would therefore be safer for everyone.

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, but I understand your point.

We keep hearing that guns are scary but at least three leftists idiots didn't get the memo. Then again, am I now tasked with factoring in whether someone who isn't afraid of my AR (or other firearm) continues to approach me? Do I have to go the extra step to show them that there's also a bayonet on the end of it?

[–] • 5 pts (edited )

While I do not disagree with you, speaking as a former Infantryman, I can tell you that:

1) Yes. Under certain circumstances the bayonet is a highly useful tool and any man who has been properly trained in it's effective employment, and is willing to do so, is one scary lethal sonnuvabitch at any distance, and a man not to be taken lightly. He will fucking, no shit, kill you dead.

2) Just like with the rifle, just buying one and mounting it doesn't not mean you will be effective with it. Any more than buying a piano, violin or a guitar makes you a musician. There is a reason why Infantry units practice bayonet drill as a regular part of PT. Just like with rifle marksmanship itself, or any other fighting art, it takes many proper repetitions to reach a level of competence that will see you through a hard fight.

But, as I would much rather light a candle than curse your darkness, so here a few links to get you started:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1gYUSgcfZ4 https://www.gutenberg.org/files/57186/57186-h/57186-h.htm https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/FM/FM23-25/index.html https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a511484.pdf https://archive.org/details/MarineBayonetTraining

One further note. Mounting a bare bayonet could be seen as a threat of lethal force, and stands the chance of being construed by a prosecutor as "premeditation". Proceed as you deem fit.

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But, as I would much rather light a candle than curse your darkness, so here a few links to get you started:

You are a man among men, and I thank you for it. All kidding aside, I may just look into a bayonet for my shotgun.

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Good luck to you.

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Thank you very much for the links. They're highly informative

Did you know, that there are very few bayonet encounters in recorded history, in which both sides actually fought each other? When confronted with a bayonet charge, people usually run away, so bayonet charges are a nice way to clean out enemy positions, and people then sometimes get stabbed in the back while running away, or get stabbed while being on the ground. But it's very rare, that something like bayonet-fencing occurs. This was true even in napoleonic times.

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Oh, I'm very familiar with the much variegated history of my little friend, "Mr. Stabby." There's a very good reason why he was kept polished until he gleamed, bright and shiny. The British Redcoats built an entire empire on Brown Bess and cold steel.

A massed formation bayonet charge represents a pure all-or-nothing commitment. The man you see coming at you with bare steel and blood in his eyes from having worked himself into a murderous fury, knows that he must win through or die. Most sane men, when faced with that level of commitment and approaching calamity, will decide that they have other options and promptly exercise them.

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Do I have to go the extra step to show them that there's also a bayonet on the end of it?

I guess they'd notice the bayonet by themselves. Besides, I'm not saying, that you should be commanded to have a bayonet planted on your rifle, just, that it should be encouraged.

Besides, bayonets are great for many things, like opening letters, opening a bottle of beer, opening packages, and so on.

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Besides, bayonets are great for many things, like opening letters, opening a bottle of beer, opening packages, and so on.

Now there's inspiration for carrying a bayonet!

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triangle bayonets cannot be sewn up iirc

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It is exponentially more difficult to stitch up a triangular puncture wound, but I don’t believe most bayonets still use a triangular profile. Not sure why? Probably because the bayonet has more utility with a more traditional knife profile.

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Bayonets these days are most often used as just knives for non-combat duties rather than a main form of attack, when triangle bayonets were in fashion they were very much an important weapon both offensively and defensively.

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Probably considered a war crime and banned by the Geneva Convention or some bullshit.

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Or soldiers were too stupid to use it effectively, and just caused needle-punctures that heal easily. The way of using such stiletto-type blades is to ram them into the body, and wiggle around wildly, so that the blade rips open everything that's in it's way.

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Yup. Three edged weapons are extremely deadly.

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You have a point

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My SKS has a built in bayonet. It not as scary as an AR because it's not black, but just as deadly.

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Why no ?

Seriously though a bayonet is also efficient for executions or when you run out of ammo.

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Any MacGyvers know how to fit a bayonet on an 11.5 FSB rifle? Or know where to get a "short handle bayonet"? I cannot find any easy solution for short barrels other than paying $165 for the Geissele mount.

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They would just spin it as "The rifle was not dangerous enough for him... he had to strap a knife to it to make it EXTRA DANGEROUS! You see your honor this is clearly a demonstration of murderous intent!"

In established case law, modifying your weapon to make it more killy is a very bad idea. This is something that prosecutors look for and when they find it they smile. People have gone to jail over this. In self defense courses and CCW classes you will be strongly cautioned about modifying your firearm and what type of accessories you add. Usually this happens when someone has put a lighter trigger spring in or a polished sear... but I know that there was at least one case where the prosecutor argued murderous intent because the weapon had been made more killy with the addition of a vertical foregrip.

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I never said, that the legal system wasn't full of shit and needs to be burned to the ground so that it can be replaced by something even remotely adequate.

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