One common FMJ as a baseline
We are spoiled with so many good options today.
I know, think of having to melt down lead for bullets.
And probably all but one is stopped by a
That sounds suspiciously like a production run of ammo which was inadvertently loaded P-. Heck, those officers are lucky those rounds even cycled normally.
You can alternate FMJ and hollow points in the magazine just in case.
A simple solution that didn't occur to me, kudos.
There is also those rounds that would work well that way.
Use fmj in the winter. Common knowledge among the .380 crowd since that caliber has more issues with this then the 9mm. Is much less common problem with 9mm. I bet they were using a low recoil, low muzzle flash quick burn powder with a lower velocity.
Really liking that Talon spread...wow...vicious.
I just looked it up and there's a box of 20 of those available in stock today. Only $180.
haha, 4th mortgage time
I’ve never seen the talon listed before on ammoseek. Got plenty of Speer gold dot.
They made them illegal for a while.
They were never illegal. Winchester pulled them due to the media backlash and propaganda calling them "cop killer bullets". They later released a slightly modified version without the black coating called the SXT, the joke being that it stood for Same eXact Thing.
Must have been all the media talk about making them illegal. Don't remember them calling them cop killer bullets (those were the solid steel ones) but it wouldn't surprise me, all they do is lie.
I have a question, should I buy a 9mm for edc or a 40, 45? People say there’s no significant difference in their effectiveness but idk.
IMO it's whatever you find most comfortable. I like 9mm for faster follow up and capacity. Yet I have a .45 on the nightstand because I'm less concerned about size & weight due to the fact I'm not carrying that SOB around all day. Truth be told I usually just drop a little.32 in my pocket, maybe not the most effective but first rule in a gunfight is have a gun.
Common opinion is just that, so they recommend 9mm so you get maximum number of rounds in the mag.
All things being equal if you could put rounds on target easily with full power 10mm, that would be my choice because I feel in general pistol rounds are too underpowered to put someone down fast (see my other comment about Carhartt jacket body armor).
Depends on open carry or concealed carry. The .45 is a monster compared to the other two, but doesn't hold much ammo and compact ones are still bigger than the 9's. My conceal carry is a Ruger EC-9 which is a 9mm but is so small it only holds 7 rounds. A standard 9mm like a Glock will be 15 rounds.
EC9 was probably my favorite edc ever. Small enough to hide and 7 9mm plus a magazine should be plenty for all but the worst situations.
Shouldn't have taken it on that canoe trip....
9mm guns tend to be smaller, but snappier when shot. .40 are about as big as 45 guns. .40cal is WAY snappy. more so than a 9mm. However more power than 9mm or 45acp. 45acp the largest of the three guns... Not a ton of power "FPS" however you got a large ball of lead down range.
I like both 9mm and 45acp. 9 for CC 45 for OC.
That's my take as well. If I'm going to have a snappy pistol, it'll be with the un-neutered .40; the full 10mm. The .40 was a dumb compromise round.
I think I would carry a 10mm before I carried a 45 but it's an expensive caliber. Best gun is the one you carry often and practice with though so I stick with 9mm with critical defense (though I may change that looking at this image). If glock ever made a slimline 10mm I would switch but the 43x is nice and easy to carry.
The average number of hits for incapacitation is slightly lower for higher calibers, but not significantly higher. I'd recommend 9mm because it's common, relatively inexpensive, and lower recoil...which increases accuracy. Remember that your worst day at the range is the approximate accuracy of your best day when the SHTF, so accuracy trumps slight differences in wound channels.
The shape of "Winchester black talon" after impact looks INSANE, like it literally turns itself into a meat grinder
They where the shit in the 90's. However the MEDIA ran with
BLACK TALON COP KILLERS! GO THROUGH VESTS!
The black color was a teflon type coating.
Look at the Winchester Rangers. Almost the same thing. The closest you can get anymore are the Winchester PDX which is very close to the original talons.
I carry Hornady Critical Duty .45 in my Sig P320c with Tritium Fiber Optic sights. 500 lbs of delivered energy. in minecraft.
Damn I'm playing the wrong Minecraft
I like the ones that kill niggers the best the best.
Liberty ammunition, fragmenting hollow point, is not represented.
A real gentleman carries a .357 mag. Or .44 mag. Most close counter firearm disputes are done after an average of 2-6 rounds. Make em loud, and lethal. If they are wearing a vest, make em hurt.
Black Talons and Winchester Rangers for the win.
Which is best for nigger mobs?
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