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freak ammo accident at 4:20 minute mark https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=1449kJKxlMQ

freak ammo accident at 4:20 minute mark https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=1449kJKxlMQ

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[–] [deleted] 3 pts

not really strange, he says in the video the bullet was loaded way to hot and cause the gun to explode

[–] 4 pts (edited )

True and sad. Though i do not know if his gun was hot, but... On a hot day in a desert I saw a 223 misfire then self fire hot once OVER 20 SECONDS after misfire, when handled in a hot barrel, and I was on a range with a 50 call cook off similarly over 20 seconds later while being taken from chamber.

neither primer of either gun in theory should be that unstable, not even vietnam era bullets.

SABOTAGED BULLETS enter resale markets. USA dropped thousands of explosive tamperred .50 cal across middle east in recent decades, and even in vietnam the USA sabotaged bullets. :

https://militaryhistorynow.com/2016/11/18/project-eldest-son-the-secret-u-s-scheme-to-sabotage-charlies-ammo/

Why? to cause fear and terror at using seized found bullets

Know Where Your Ammo Comes From! Project Pole Bean: How Sneaky Green Berets Blew Up a Few Guns and Frightened an Entire Army:

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/project-pole-bean-how-sneaky-green-berets-blew-up-a-few-guns-and-frightened-an-entire-army/

EARLIER :

British slipped exploding rifle cartridges into enemy caches during the Second Matabele War (1896-1897) in what is now Zimbabwe. The British scouts were led by an American, Frederick Russell Burnham, who probably put them up to it.

That article claims only large caliber and mortars are typically sabotaged, to minimize maiming farmers.

[–] 4 pts

Hot as in overpressure loaded, goof.

[–] 2 pts

Overloaded? Underloaded bullets cause MORE explosive events like shown ,than overloaded. Putting in as much gunpowder as you want wont increase the explosive force so much that the bullet wont properly exit the jacket and enter barrel. Underloading will, called "squib" . Maybe most .50 cals weigh 40 pounds of metal from support and barrel for a good reason, other than recoil.

squib rounds: bullets that become lodged in the barrel due to an underloaded round are more common that a mythical effect of a overloaded 50 cal round.

My story on recently struck primers going off somehow seconds later is not shown in any of these mishap videos and far more "Final Destination" unfortunate.

I was just hijacking narrative and comingling two unrelated though intersting facts : fact one... a misfire round is dangerous unless you let all the gun cool down before trying to play with misfired round. Fact two, the amount of PSI force estimated in that video is far far far below the PSI level of a fully contained sabotaged .50 round of 200,000 as per CIA and Mil studies and reports from links I provided above. His misfire explosion was not a sabotage, though could have been, but HIS estimation of PSI level was vastly lower than 200,000. I assume his was UNDERLOADED (the opposite of hot) or a bullet that was struck less than 30 seconds prior and restruck, or... his bullet somehow was not properly aligned , somehow deformed in overly narrow rifled barrel, and lodged. Most bullets are ridiculously tight, wider than the actual ungrooved barrel by 0.008 or wider, and tolerances are on the edge : https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/bullets-tightness-in-barrel-and-pounds-of-pressure.508256/

multiple videos of UNDERLOADED gun mishaps: Here are many videos of big time explosions from NOT ENOUGH gunpowder (probably) : https://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2015/01/22/9-catastrophic-gun-malfunctions-can-learn/

when the bullet is "hot" it means there is way to much gunpowder in it. people who who reload ammo know this and everything is weighed out to not have this happen.

the gun is designed to hold a certain amount of pressure, it basically turned the gun into a hand grenade

[–] 0 pt

Cant overload to cause that result. Can underload though to cause it.

Underloaded bullets cause MORE explosive events like shown ,than overloaded. Putting in as much gunpowder as you want wont increase the explosive force so much that the bullet wont properly exit the jacket and enter barrel

Read and learn :

https://poal.co/s/guns/354158/9ad14569-50a4-4a06-a9b3-a1f8238a6d67#cmnts

multiple videos of UNDERLOADED gun mishaps:

Here are many videos of big time explosions from NOT ENOUGH gunpowder (probably) : https://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2015/01/22/9-catastrophic-gun-malfunctions-can-learn/