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What the actual fuck. I just can't believe that none of these companies are able to figure out their primer shortage. How difficult is it to make ammo? People can make it at home!

Everyone is talking about Biden's gun bill or whatever, not realizing that without ammo (and affordable ammo to actually practice) gun ownership is pretty much useless. If it costs more than a dollar a round, people will just use guns only for hunting, or will be horribly out of practice and not proficient if they have to defend themselves.

Ammo is as important as the actual weapon.

What the actual fuck. I just can't believe that none of these companies are able to figure out their primer shortage. How difficult is it to make ammo? People can make it at home! Everyone is talking about Biden's gun bill or whatever, not realizing that without ammo (and affordable ammo to actually practice) gun ownership is pretty much useless. If it costs more than a dollar a round, people will just use guns only for hunting, or will be horribly out of practice and not proficient if they have to defend themselves. Ammo is as important as the actual weapon.

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You guys are so low brow its painful... If everyone uses 1000 bullets a year and you have 100 people shooting then you need to make 100000 bullets a year. Now imagine a retard is elected president and 200 more people buy a gun and now everyone uses 3000 ammo a year.

Its once again simple economics, people buy (a LOT) more than what is produced. There is no artificial limitation ffs stop being niggers.

And for the OP saying ammo is sooo easy to make people even makenit at home... I'm not even going to feed the troll.

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In three words: inelastic supply curve.

Precision machining is hard to scale rapidly, and anyone who think ammunition isnt precision machining needs to look at the the spec tolerances.

There's a reason every third world shithole has a cottage industry in AK manufacture but imports ammo. Russia and former East Bloc nations even produce steel cased ammo especially for these loose tolerance/"hard extraction" AKs made by Abdul in a garage. Sure, it fouls more because it doesnt seal to the chamber worth a darn , but better a dirty garage AK than a jammed one.

If Abdul could manufacture virgin ammo in his garage, there wouldnt be a massive ammo export industry.

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most of those people that change their gun activity in response to disarment attempts might use a only a few cases or one bulk box before going back to their prior gun apathy, so one thousand rounds a year is a quite a bit much.

I bought my first guns last year and shot well over a thousand rounds.

Then I lost everything in a boating accident, so I don’t really care. I’ll just sit in piles of ammo and maybe pick up another gun at some point.

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in my country were limited to 2000 rounds a year and i can assure you that without this restriction i would shoot them every month...ammo goes fast.people i the us dont usually buy a box but a crate of thousands, and now they want to buy even more because "muh gobermant artibichal supply" and dont realize they feed the problem.

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And for the OP saying ammo is sooo easy to make people even makenit at home

With the supplies I could setup fully automated ammo production in my own workshop in a couple of weeks.

C or python, image recognition, a few cheap microcomputers, digital scale, servos, respective tools, and a lathe for making parts among other things.

It'd be harder than that, but easier than you might assume.

Doesn't prove anything of course. But you gotta ask, how high is the demand that others aren't selling into the market?

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With the supplies I could

That's exactly what he's referring to. It's like someone saying you can't fly and you're like "oh yeah? Well if I had wings I totally could".

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Well at least I didn't make a low effort shit-tier post.

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You have metal presses and draws in your garage? Even making the casing is pretty involved: https://www.petersoncartridge.com/technical-information/drawing-brass/

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You have metal presses and draws in your garage?

Casings and other are part of the supplies anyone would need, distinct from assembly of a round. Not that I have those things.

But I don't see why those machines couldn't be built.

Theres nothing here that a competent metallurgist, machinist, electronics engineer, and mechanical engineer couldn't design and build on our own if any of us were so inclined.

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Brass, lead, steel, powder.

All of these are components needed to produce ammo.

Asinine to think "I could produce it in my garage." Without preformed primers, powder, & brass, you and making bumb-kiss.

It is also a steep learning curve to re-load, and the initial up front costs can easily run into the thousands.

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Blasting caps are dangerous as fuck to produce. This is where the supply shortage is.

If you think you can quickly setup and safely make those in your garage, you're fooling yourself brother.

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Blasting caps are dangerous as fuck to produce.

Thats because they have humans handling part of the process instead of fully automating the most dangerous parts.