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Has anyone considered the value of clip loaded combat rifles, as per an SKS or M1 Garand?

The value of clips when loading magazines is clear, to your thumb at least, but what about the value of never needing a magazine, ever?

The more ammo you have, the more valuable the clip-loaded rifle becomes.

Suppose you have a big stash of ammo, over 1000 rounds. WIth a magazine-fed rifle, how much of your ammo do you pre-load into magazines, ie, how many mags do you need? How long do you leave those magazines loaded?

With clip fed rifles, your ammo is always ready.

Is someone really going to load 1200 rounds of bulk ammo into 40 x 30 round magazines and leave it stashed indefinately? Not likely.

Is someone really going to have 1200 rounds of ammo in pre-loaded clips for their SKS or Garand? Sure, and why the hell not? It's not like clips are prohibitively expensive, and it's especially convenient if the ammo is pre-loaded into clips.

BTW, a "mini Garand" with clip-fed, top-loaded internal magazine that fires .223, perhaps from 10 or 12 round clips, would be the ultimate Guerrilla warfare combat rifle.

Edit: I never even mentioned the issue of bad magazines, which are very common. If you have dozens of magazines loaded up, have you tested them before hand? What do you do with magazines that "sorta" jam? Seriously, anyone dissing my argument on the grounds that magazines are automatically superior is a knucklehead at best.

Has anyone considered the value of clip loaded combat rifles, as per an SKS or M1 Garand? The value of clips when loading magazines is clear, to your thumb at least, but what about the value of never needing a magazine, ever? The more ammo you have, the more valuable the clip-loaded rifle becomes. Suppose you have a big stash of ammo, over 1000 rounds. WIth a magazine-fed rifle, how much of your ammo do you pre-load into magazines, ie, how many mags do you need? How long do you leave those magazines loaded? With clip fed rifles, your ammo is always ready. Is someone really going to load 1200 rounds of bulk ammo into 40 x 30 round magazines and leave it stashed indefinately? Not likely. Is someone really going to have 1200 rounds of ammo in pre-loaded clips for their SKS or Garand? Sure, and why the hell not? It's not like clips are prohibitively expensive, and it's especially convenient if the ammo is pre-loaded into clips. BTW, a "mini Garand" with clip-fed, top-loaded internal magazine that fires .223, perhaps from 10 or 12 round clips, would be the ultimate Guerrilla warfare combat rifle. Edit: I never even mentioned the issue of bad magazines, which are very common. If you have dozens of magazines loaded up, have you tested them before hand? What do you do with magazines that "sorta" jam? Seriously, anyone dissing my argument on the grounds that magazines are automatically superior is a knucklehead at best.

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I've shot a lot of ARs with a lot of mags. I've never seen one jam. I don't think clips are superior to mags for defending a static position, they would only be superior in the one-in-a-trillion scenario I described. Yes, magazines cost more than clips. But unless you're super broke, they are worth the extra cost. I feel like a 30-round en-bloc clip would be much more unwieldy and fragile than a regular AR or AK mag.

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Cheap knockoff magazines can jam, meaning pre-loading 900 rounds of ammo cost about as much as another gun or several hundred additional loose rounds of ammo. It costs $300-600 worth of magazines, and that's without testing them with 30 rounds each. It's closer to $500-1000 just for magazines (alone) which have actually been loaded and test fired.

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When storing mass ammo, magazines don't cost more than clips, they cost more than the rifle.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

You can get 24 AR-15 magazines for less than $300. My Del-Ton AR was $400 on sale. You don't need to have your entire ammo supply in clips or mags, there's no point.

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You can get a whole M4 clone for less than $500 afaik, but I haven't checked recent prices. You're saying the empty magazines cost nearly as much as the rifle itself? You're also not suggesting testing the magazines beforehand, which isn't cheap either. Fully loaded & pre-tested, the ammo storage winds up costing more than the rifle in some cases. Surely there's a better way, and there is, but it's not "cool" in the gun community. It's not something promoted by known "experts", so I can expect the sort of response I get. Like I said in one of my comments, if Rambo had used a clip-fed, 50-round machine gun, there would be no debate unless I switched my argument and advocated for box magazines instead.