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Has anyone considered the value of clip loaded combat rifles, as per an SKS or M1 Garand?

The value of clips when loading magazines is clear, to your thumb at least, but what about the value of never needing a magazine, ever?

The more ammo you have, the more valuable the clip-loaded rifle becomes.

Suppose you have a big stash of ammo, over 1000 rounds. WIth a magazine-fed rifle, how much of your ammo do you pre-load into magazines, ie, how many mags do you need? How long do you leave those magazines loaded?

With clip fed rifles, your ammo is always ready.

Is someone really going to load 1200 rounds of bulk ammo into 40 x 30 round magazines and leave it stashed indefinately? Not likely.

Is someone really going to have 1200 rounds of ammo in pre-loaded clips for their SKS or Garand? Sure, and why the hell not? It's not like clips are prohibitively expensive, and it's especially convenient if the ammo is pre-loaded into clips.

BTW, a "mini Garand" with clip-fed, top-loaded internal magazine that fires .223, perhaps from 10 or 12 round clips, would be the ultimate Guerrilla warfare combat rifle.

Edit: I never even mentioned the issue of bad magazines, which are very common. If you have dozens of magazines loaded up, have you tested them before hand? What do you do with magazines that "sorta" jam? Seriously, anyone dissing my argument on the grounds that magazines are automatically superior is a knucklehead at best.

Has anyone considered the value of clip loaded combat rifles, as per an SKS or M1 Garand? The value of clips when loading magazines is clear, to your thumb at least, but what about the value of never needing a magazine, ever? The more ammo you have, the more valuable the clip-loaded rifle becomes. Suppose you have a big stash of ammo, over 1000 rounds. WIth a magazine-fed rifle, how much of your ammo do you pre-load into magazines, ie, how many mags do you need? How long do you leave those magazines loaded? With clip fed rifles, your ammo is always ready. Is someone really going to load 1200 rounds of bulk ammo into 40 x 30 round magazines and leave it stashed indefinately? Not likely. Is someone really going to have 1200 rounds of ammo in pre-loaded clips for their SKS or Garand? Sure, and why the hell not? It's not like clips are prohibitively expensive, and it's especially convenient if the ammo is pre-loaded into clips. BTW, a "mini Garand" with clip-fed, top-loaded internal magazine that fires .223, perhaps from 10 or 12 round clips, would be the ultimate Guerrilla warfare combat rifle. Edit: I never even mentioned the issue of bad magazines, which are very common. If you have dozens of magazines loaded up, have you tested them before hand? What do you do with magazines that "sorta" jam? Seriously, anyone dissing my argument on the grounds that magazines are automatically superior is a knucklehead at best.

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When storing mass ammo, magazines don't cost more than clips, they cost more than the rifle.

You can get 24 AR-15 magazines for less than $300. My Del-Ton AR was $400 on sale. You don't need to have your entire ammo supply in clips or mags, there's no point.

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You can get a whole M4 clone for less than $500 afaik, but I haven't checked recent prices. You're saying the empty magazines cost nearly as much as the rifle itself? You're also not suggesting testing the magazines beforehand, which isn't cheap either. Fully loaded & pre-tested, the ammo storage winds up costing more than the rifle in some cases. Surely there's a better way, and there is, but it's not "cool" in the gun community. It's not something promoted by known "experts", so I can expect the sort of response I get. Like I said in one of my comments, if Rambo had used a clip-fed, 50-round machine gun, there would be no debate unless I switched my argument and advocated for box magazines instead.

Clips are cool. Cooler than box mags, in my opinion. Revolvers are cool, too. Revolvers even have advantages over semi-auto pistols. But those advantages aren't enough to justify using a revolver instead of a semi-auto, just like the advantages of clips aren't enough to justify using them.