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Has anyone considered the value of clip loaded combat rifles, as per an SKS or M1 Garand?

The value of clips when loading magazines is clear, to your thumb at least, but what about the value of never needing a magazine, ever?

The more ammo you have, the more valuable the clip-loaded rifle becomes.

Suppose you have a big stash of ammo, over 1000 rounds. WIth a magazine-fed rifle, how much of your ammo do you pre-load into magazines, ie, how many mags do you need? How long do you leave those magazines loaded?

With clip fed rifles, your ammo is always ready.

Is someone really going to load 1200 rounds of bulk ammo into 40 x 30 round magazines and leave it stashed indefinately? Not likely.

Is someone really going to have 1200 rounds of ammo in pre-loaded clips for their SKS or Garand? Sure, and why the hell not? It's not like clips are prohibitively expensive, and it's especially convenient if the ammo is pre-loaded into clips.

BTW, a "mini Garand" with clip-fed, top-loaded internal magazine that fires .223, perhaps from 10 or 12 round clips, would be the ultimate Guerrilla warfare combat rifle.

Edit: I never even mentioned the issue of bad magazines, which are very common. If you have dozens of magazines loaded up, have you tested them before hand? What do you do with magazines that "sorta" jam? Seriously, anyone dissing my argument on the grounds that magazines are automatically superior is a knucklehead at best.

Has anyone considered the value of clip loaded combat rifles, as per an SKS or M1 Garand? The value of clips when loading magazines is clear, to your thumb at least, but what about the value of never needing a magazine, ever? The more ammo you have, the more valuable the clip-loaded rifle becomes. Suppose you have a big stash of ammo, over 1000 rounds. WIth a magazine-fed rifle, how much of your ammo do you pre-load into magazines, ie, how many mags do you need? How long do you leave those magazines loaded? With clip fed rifles, your ammo is always ready. Is someone really going to load 1200 rounds of bulk ammo into 40 x 30 round magazines and leave it stashed indefinately? Not likely. Is someone really going to have 1200 rounds of ammo in pre-loaded clips for their SKS or Garand? Sure, and why the hell not? It's not like clips are prohibitively expensive, and it's especially convenient if the ammo is pre-loaded into clips. BTW, a "mini Garand" with clip-fed, top-loaded internal magazine that fires .223, perhaps from 10 or 12 round clips, would be the ultimate Guerrilla warfare combat rifle. Edit: I never even mentioned the issue of bad magazines, which are very common. If you have dozens of magazines loaded up, have you tested them before hand? What do you do with magazines that "sorta" jam? Seriously, anyone dissing my argument on the grounds that magazines are automatically superior is a knucklehead at best.

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You're suggesting keeping 24 loaded 30-round magazines? I'm not opposed, I'm just questioning the logistics, practicality, and ultimately your ammo capacity in an extended firefight scenario (albeit highly unlikely).

In an epic battle, 720 rounds pre-loaded + 720 rounds in clips is still trumped by 1440 rounds in clips, particularly the Garand style clips. I don't particularly like the SKS style using normal stripper clips, but it fits the category.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

24 loaded AR mags is nothing. Some people have way more than that https://pic8.co/sh/J8Vam2.gif

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  • 24 magazines costs?
  • How about for magazines that never jam, how much do those cost?
  • Is each magazine independently tested fully loaded?
  • How much extra does it cost to test?

By the time you test enough of them, the magazines cost more than another gun would.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I've shot a lot of ARs with a lot of mags. I've never seen one jam. I don't think clips are superior to mags for defending a static position, they would only be superior in the one-in-a-trillion scenario I described. Yes, magazines cost more than clips. But unless you're super broke, they are worth the extra cost. I feel like a 30-round en-bloc clip would be much more unwieldy and fragile than a regular AR or AK mag.