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What a fucking awful explanation of why Free Speech is important

No shit, it's like if you want free speech then my kiddy porn and other shit is fully protected also. No it's not but it's what I'm reading in what that said.

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BORRRRRRRRRRING reply!

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Gibs me your personal defense of Free Speech and I'll give you mine

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Free speech is a necessary component in the discussion of public discourse, exposure of corruption, and the sharing of mah shitposting!

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Anon is fully and completely wrong. obscenity is not now and never was protected by the first amendment (the only relevant metric for free speech) so his (((50 shades))) example is both terribly wrong and questionably subversive.

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Once anyone agrees you can limit speech for any reason, you no longer have freedom, you get tyranny. The tyranny will simply increase until there is no speech.

This is true for anything: exceptions always invite more exceptions.

Crime. Once you decide certain crimes are no longer crimes, you get more crime until crimes no longer exist.

Taxes. Once you start taxing one thing, slowly, everything gets taxed.

Safety. Once you allow authority to limit you for any safety concerns, tyranny will explode as it redefines everything as a safety problem.

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Your argument can also be used against free speech: Once some expressions of profanity/degeneracy are allowed and protected as 'free speech', a deluge of such speech is sure to follow—lowering the average quality of discourse and culture for all.

I invite you to recognize that 'freedom' isn't some ideal and attainable state in and of itself, but rather describes a system of trade-offs. To be more free in some ways is always to be less free in others. I understand that it's emotionally compelling to speak of these things as platitudes and absolutes, but in reality the particulars matter. Wise governance and personal choice are both important; what we need to do is find a sweet spot between the two and protect each from their own worst tendencies.

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I am more for free speech than not.

It's not the banning of speech, it's banning the correct speakers.

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Yep. The talking realm is not the same as the "action" realm. I will protect your right to say anything. However, the moment that free speech crosses the line and becomes a harmful action, then correct response with violence must be executed in the case of violent crimes.