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How do you get to be 400 lbs? Some folks are real big yea, but if its fat something is badly wrong.
What kind of shovel loving diet is this fat bastard on? Is he legitimately ill? Genetically disabled?
It cant just be donut, I eat the fuck out of some donuts. 200lbs, and not fat.
This fucking bothers me, on one hand, I hate the lazy sob, on the other I have to ask if he has any choice at all, I assume he does and am not advocating for this pos, but I am genuinely curious, how the fuck this happened. I find the 'irresponsible' idea likely, but the same irresponsible shit I've done, and it didnt happen to me. Why? Did he simply sustain the behavior as opposed to my temporary irresponsibility? Is there legit something wrong with him? Was a decent life ever in his cards?
Both my parents were fat, one might have been homer simpson like at 250, but no on was 300ish, I dont understand this.
brb gotta do some situps
tl:dr -> eewwww
My step-father walked around at over 300. Sometimes reaching 350. He ate SOOO fucking much. And worse, he literally monitored us kids, to make sure we weren't eating too much. lol. Not because he was concerned for our health, but he wanted to ensure there was enough food for his habit. My brother and I would look forward to a dessert, then my step father would criticize the amount we took making it a stress inducing experience. Guess it's why I don't enjoy sweets. lol. Thanks, you fat fucker. On a side note.. he dead. Died after a sucker punch, in prison, from a heart attack. lol.
How does a 350 lb lard barge even commit a crime? Ffs how do they even roll out of bed?
Yeah, I'm at a loss too. I'm healthy now, but even when I was eating trash food whenever I wanted and eating until I was full, I never made it over 240 and I'm 6'2'.
It has to be a mental illness. Like, they must eat until they're sick and miserable all day.
I find that term "greedy guts" is what normally applies. It is the childish notion that if you do not eat the food someone else will, and then they win.
Can confirm. Knew a fat in college who had "food anxiety." Of course it wasn't her fault. It was because her parents didn't feed her enough, so she had to eat everything in sight just to make sure everyone else didn't eat it. I suspect she ate everything and parents wouldn't run out and buy more food.
I actually knew a guy like that. He never called it "food anxiety" or any nonsense like that. He truly wasn't fed enough and his "family" didn't provide enough. He was at a healthy weight when I knew him though. Maybe even a bit underweight.
I remember he was at my house and stayed for dinner. My dad watched him in awe as he ate 14 chicken drumsticks. I was used to it but my point is, he was conditioned to eat as much as he could whenever food was available. It was really kind of sad.
I cant help but think you are correct. Lots of good info posted but I think you might have hit the cynical nail on the head.
That and a bunch of other things like anxiety over wasting food and comfort eating.
It cant just be donut, I eat the fuck out of some donuts. 200lbs, and not fat.
As much as FPH likes to dunk on fatties for bringing it up, metabolism is a thing. Some people can eat like shit and burn it all off without trying, other people eat like shit and turn into a heart attack wrapped in a beetus.
The other thing is excercise, once someone gets seriously fat it gets very difficult to burn it off just because it's hard to do most of the things normal people do to excercise. Also there's the shame of being fat making it harder to do social things like joining a sports club.
Could be other problems upstairs too, like social anxiety.
Ok so metabolism is a thing. If someone has a slow metabolism, then it’s up to them to EAT LESS!
My metabolism slowed and I got to 240 at 6’5”. So you know what? Now I eat vegetables fruit and plainly cooked fish and meats, and I cut out sugar flour and garbage.
Amazing, I lost 20 lbs and can do even more pull ups. No excuse for fat fucks, no sympathy.
Thoughtcrime asked how they got that way, I answered.
That's how I found out my baseline metabolism is only 1800 calories a day. If I eat more than that I gain weight. If I want to lose a pound per week I have to eat less than 1400 calories a day. Everyone has a baseline metabolism no matter what metabolism you have.
It's almost impossible to eat only 1400 calories if you're eating burgers, pasta, bread, and other shit food. If you eat a lot of fruit and vegetables it's a lot easier. 1400 calories is like 20 oranges or ten bowls of oatmeal. 1/4-lb of chicken thigh is 240 calories. Oatmeal for breakfast, 1/4-lb chicken thigh and an orange for lunch, an apple for snack, and you're still free to eat 900 calories for dinner.
I agree. All this stuff is genetic IMO. All of it. Some of it is a metabolic thing. Some of it is a “mental health” thing. These systems are all interconnected so its basically impossible to divorce metabolic factors from emotional eating.
Being fatties was really useful in certain environments historically when food was scarce. We are in a new environment and some of us havent evolved to function in it.
One day soon, we will discover 2 or 3 genes that explain 95 % of fat people and we will say “oh I guess they didnt really choose to be fat.”
Social shaming has its usefulness in regulating behaviors in society. But if we really care about other white people, we should push for health environments for white people and stop letting (((corporations))) push garbage on them.
You wouldnt feed a lot of this food to your dog. Dogs dont really choose to eat potato chips or ice cream, if you put it in front of them. They literally cant stop themselves. Our systems are pretty much the same. Choice is really an illusion. We can pressure people to follow different habits or change their environments. But we should be scientific about our approach to obesity and stop acting like hysterical niggers about it.
There are a lot of great fat people out there with good values. We can improve their utility if we can solve the fat problem. Its just a problem to be solved.
Pretty much.
As for social shaming, it's a stick. It's not a bad thing to have a stick whipping people in the right direction, but there needs to be a path for them to take and some kind of carrot at the end otherwise it'll only motivate them to be depressed and give up.
Genetics could be part of it. I think it is a lot more complicated and I think it is a combinatorial problem. Here are several variables that have far more effect on the rate at which food is processed, absorbed and stored as fat:
1) Your gut biome - if you get your gut biome completely destroyed, you are going to have a really difficult time actually absorbing enough nutrients to survive.
You can get gut biome transplants from skinny people and you will typically remain skinny.
2) The amount of muscle mass you have on your frame - if you are excercising / working and have large amounts of muscle mass you will burn more calories than someone with virtually no muscle mass that sits in front of the computer all day long.
Just by default, more muscle means burning more calories.
3) Eating large amounts of sugars in all of its forms including starches - while all food spikes your insulin levels, sugars in all of their forms spikes your insulin levels so incredibly high the food you intake gets mostly stored as fat rather than processed.
And it gets worse.
There is such a thing as a hunger hormone called ghrelin. Ghrelin is released under certain conditions and, while this isn't a huge problem if you are intermittent fast, if you want to do a full fast for more than a week, you will hit a ghrelin wall on day 3 and day 5 or your fast. If you can make it to day 7 and beyond you are home free EXCEPT if you cheat by eating even a crumb. The tiniest amount of food on a full fast will trigger a ghrelin response and you are fucked and will not be able to continue your fast unless you want to deal with withdrawal like symptoms.
It gets even worse: Sleepwill affect how and what you eat. If you are a programmer and tend to work at night (or any night job) your hormone cycles will re-adjust them selves and make you crave all kinds of bizarre things at night.
It gets even worse: If you are trying to do intermittent fasting (eating once every 24 hours) and you don't know how to cook, you will eat restaurant food and that will fuck with your daily hormone cycles because the nutritional value of restaurant food is not designed to satiate, it is designed to bring you back in for seconds (high in addictive properties, low in saitative properties). To actually do intermittent fasting, you have to learn how to cook first because your body will tell you what it's craving based on the nutritional requirements.
It gets even worse: If you want to regain control over your eating, not only do you have to balance all of the above in some way, you have to convert to a keto style diet. Basically, you need to know how to cook meat and green veg, which are the only two things that should be on your plate. This can be cheap if you know how to cook, however, the reason poor people eat mostly starches is because starches are the cheapest calories on the planet, so you will be spending a bit more money cooking meat + green veg.
So, you are right, but its NOT only gentics. The amount of permutations of just the things I have listed that you can do to loose weight is vast. But really gaining control for most people will be a multifactor strategy.
// EDIT: Also, there is no such thing as losing weight. Instead, what you need to do is regain control over your daily hormonal rhythms. You don't control your weight, your hormones do. If you want your weight to re-adjust, you need to either control your hormonal rhythms or increase your caloric output. But, there is no such thing as losing weight in the same way that you cannot think and stop your heart or think and stop your breathing. These are all controlled by subsystems that are not under your concious control.
fatties like that literally don't move any more than necessary. that in turn slows the metabolism to about .00001
heheh fat people hate sitting on couches with me
every 45s they tell me to stop shaking my legs, I dont know im doing it lol.
Dude, holy fuck. I’m a habitual leg shaker and I’ve always noticed some people get really annoyed with it. Looking back it was the fatties, pretty much every single time
I know a guy who got to 620lbs. These people are eating and drinking at an insane level. He was at event and I saw him order 4 Dr. Peppers at once. Not 4 drinks back-to-back. He wanted 4 cups at the same time. Who the fuck does that?!
At that same event he broke 2 chairs and a bench. Disgusting. His smell was also horrific. My friend is a massae therapist and gave him a massage once. She said poop smells were nonstop.
He did get his stomach stapled and is down to 250 or so now. So that's better, I guess.
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