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Pretty much.

As for social shaming, it's a stick. It's not a bad thing to have a stick whipping people in the right direction, but there needs to be a path for them to take and some kind of carrot at the end otherwise it'll only motivate them to be depressed and give up.

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I agree. I think social shaming can be really useful. Fat people never really bothered me — I mean no one is making you fuck them, not yet anyway. But I must admit that the fat is getting out of hand. My heart breaks for some of these people.

Perhaps more focus on shunning behavior rather than the state of being fat is more useful.

If we can indoctrinate people that not excercising is simply unacceptable behavior. That eating certain diets and certain foods is just unacceptable. Religions put proscriptions on eating certain food at certain times and are very successful in controlling eating behavior. That will help at least many “normal” people who tend to put on 5 or 10 lbs a decade.

James Watson got into a lot of trouble a few years ago for discussing the melanocortin system which affects melanin production and eating and fucking and violent behaviors, because of its racial implications. He says fat make you feel happy and skinny people are miserable and mean. Because food was historically scarce skinny disatisfied people are more driven to seek out food or other resources. I think fatties with mood disorders are sometimes instinctively trying to rectify negative emotions. It probably works to some extent.