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Ok, so how does it work if you're fasting and you take vitamins, thyroid meds, or one of those vitamin C "emergen C" packets with water. Does that trigger the ghrelin?
Disclosure: I am not a doctor, I have NO IDEA how medication affects the body. Dr. Jordan Peterson was put on statins the other year and he nearly died from the addiction. I know you cannot eat Grapefruit if you take certain medications. Medications in genreal have HUUUUUGE potential effects on the body, YOU MUST ALWAYS CONSULT WITH THE PHYSICIANS AND DOCTORS AT ALL TIMES.
Like, please don't listen to me or the internet. I am in excellent health, I have a sedentary job and it has taken me about 2 years of research and trial and error to figure out fasting vs intermittent fasting vs etc. Only in the last 6 months do I feel I have regained control over my apetite. I eat once a day at 6pm, I can have anything I want but I usually cook up a stew, chilli, steak, various asian stir fries, soups and such and I DO NOT FEEL HUNGRY. Last week I did not feel like eating for two days, so I didn't. My weight is coming down, but the most important part of eating once a day is that IT IS NATURAL AND NORMAL + I don't crave anything at all at 3am any longer, I don't crave donuts or cake or chocolate or soda and such.
Here is what I found:
1) HEALTH / MEDICATION: I am in excellent health and I do not take any medications at all.
2) VITAMINS: Vitamins I take daily: vitamin D, B, full set of omega supplements, magnesium, niacin, zinc, selenium and iodine.
RESULT: Absolutely no effect on ghrelin, my appetite or anything at all with respect to what I eat, how I eat and so forth. In other words no effect on intermittent fasting, the body doesn't notice it.
CAVEAT: I take the vitamins at the time that I eat so maybe that is why it doesn't affect intermittent fasting.
3) DAILY SWEETENED DRINK: I don't drink any soda, alcohol or anything extra because I don't crave it and the lock downs have made going out not possible so its kind of serendipitous.
Instead I do this:
a) Make a huge pot of tea for the day and sip that all day long.
b) I use zero calorie sweetener based on monk fruit. You have to be careful with Stevia products as they are cut with all kinds of things, I use this stuff here: https://www.lakanto.com/collections/shop-products/products/lakanto-golden-sugar-free-sweetener
So, I buy a big bag of loose tea once in a while, make a huge pot of sweat tea using Lakanto monkfruit sweetener (there are other brands) and I no longer have to try to source zero calorie drinks.
4) FOOD: I eat once a day at 6pm. I am starting to get to the point of not even feeling like I need to eat every day. But, being able to make almost anything from stews, chillis and soups (european and eastern) means I'm always full. I still eat rice once in a while or use bread for a sandwich, but I honestly mean that eating once at 6pm is more than enough.
But again, I work behind a computer and don't have to lay tiles or pour concrete so the fit is right.
ONCE MORE: If you are on medication DO NOT LISTEN TO ME OR ANYONE ON THE INTERNET. PLEASE REFER TO YOUR DOCTOR, medication is serious business.
He wasn't put on statins, he was put on a benzo, he got addicted to it and the withdrawal symptoms almost killed him.
Oh, right!
Thanks crunchy. I did intermittent fasting with an 8 hour window to eat before and that worked well. I'll probably try going to a once a day meal program. I drink soda water mostly.
I'll see about getting the monk fruit sweetener for tea.
I was exactly at that point about a year ago. I tried soda water, zero cal drinks and such.
Tea + zero cal monkfruit based sweetener (there are other zero cal sweeteners other than monkfruit) helped me replace the zero cal drinks. I literally brew a huge pot and leave it on the kitchen counter. I cannot drink room temp water, but for some strange reason I can drink room temp tea. I don't fully understand it.
BUT, the most important part is being able to cook. You have to be able to cook all of the western mother sauces from which you can derive most of western cooking. You have to be able to cook meat in various forms. It also helps to know how to cook a basic stir fry (thinly sliced meat, properly velvetted/tenderized, super high cooking temperature), and teh basic asian sauces from china and india.
Finding a daily drink that you can drink all day long (zero cal) + super satisfying food is what evens out the hormone levels because your body will get all of the nutrients that it needs without the insulin spikes.
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