>What do you expect? I don't expect them to do better, that's part of the message you responded to. They really had no hope of being better. Most of us on this board had similar upbringing to the trash the world has, but we do a lot better because we are genetically blessed with a higher intelligence. We didn't earn that, it was given to us. I just feel bad for these people. I don't condone their behavior or think they should get a pass for it, and I certainly don't intentionally support their choices in any way, but I can't hate on them, either. It's a sad life and it's a shameful cycle that curses generation after generation.