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This is going to ruffle some feathers, but I intend this to be a learning opportunity. So don't expect me to respond to people who are deliberately being inflammatory. I choose only to respond to those who make me believe that they have an IQ above room temperature. That being said... let me begin.

I am a white nationalist. I'm probably the whitest person, in both fit and form, that I know. What I have noticed is that within the white nationalist community there is this infantile group of conspiratards who are obsessed with the Jews. Now, I'm not saying that their arguments are illegitimate. I'm simply saying it's a waste of fucking time.

These people are so intellectually dishonest and so radicalized that they're unable to have a general conversation without asking loaded questions and being condescending - accusing anyone who dissents from their propaganda of being a Jew. This is cannibalism. This is not a good look and it further suggests that they are weak in their position, else they would not be threatened by dissenting opinions. I would say I feel sorry for them, but I suspect their motive is not honest, rather it is to associate stupidity, immaturity, radicalism, and hate with White Identity. I can almost hear the sound of the Happy Merchant rubbing his callous hands together.

These supposed white conspiratards and their Nazi ilk will ALWAYS be as repulsive as child sex predators and that's not me insulting them, rather that's me telling them how the majority demographic of white people see them. That should give them something to think about! Perhaps they should change their strategy if their interest is truly with saving white society. But it's not, is it? Of course not! They're infested with Jew hate and nothing else matters to them. And they're willing, out of spite, to cut the throat of their own people just to knock down the Jew. This is so virtuous, it's almost modern. Of course, all of this is assuming they're even white to begin with... which I have my suspicions otherwise.

Moving on...

One of the problems with the Jew conspiracy is that it attempts to attribute motive onto the actions of those you otherwise have no clear evidence for. Because you can find some Jewish people saying unkind things about white people, and because some can blame Jews for some atrocities in the past, and because you can find Jews at the upper echelons of society, even disportionately, it still doesn't prove your case. And of course this becomes obvious when a Jew does something that NatSocs agree with - like promoting the nuclear family unit. Suddenly they go quiet! Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can see the flaw in this conspiracy theory. Your case wouldn't even hold up in an honest court of law - outside of kindergarten rumor mills, it's the lowest evidentiary standard known to man. It's so low, it's not even remotely reliable in science! That's how low of a standard you people are unable to meet.

But the biggest problem I have with the conclusions you conspiratards draw about who's to blame for all that ails white society is that you inadvertently remove responsibility that white people have for their own decisions. It's like witnessing an illicit drug transaction and watching the buyer smoke it, go home, rape his wife, and beat his kids... and then blaming the whole thing on the dealer.

This is part of why I prefer the positive side of things. I call it "White Positivity". It's about promoting white identity without disparaging another. Surely you've heard people say "Loving your own race doesn't mean hating another", or something similar to that, right? Yet, so few of you are willing to live up to that. You're unwilling to take the high road. You don't realize that white people see themselves on a moral high ground. This is part of their keenly evolved defense mechanism and you have to appeal to those defenses if you intend to get through to them. But you will never succeed as long you're down there peddling in outrage and hate. It'll never work.

You need a different strategy. But, as most of you have already demonstrated (or are about to), you don't have the cognitive ability to do that. You refuse to see a failed strategy and replace it.

This is part of why I promote accelerationism because most white people are suicidal and retarded and nothing that weak and overcome by their enemy deserves to survive. We need a new breed of whites and none of you thin wristed, pot smoking conspiratards are worth saving. You are nothing but shackles around the feet of every morally affluent, well-to-do white person. White people are beautiful because we are rare in the grand scheme of things and there are just too many of us to be considered "rare" in any serious way anymore. Thank God most of you are so physically and intellectually repulsive that you have removed yourself from the gene pool. Nature has a beautiful way of solving problems... and that's something to smile about. Carry on with your negativity. It's worked so well for you in the past.

This is going to ruffle some feathers, but I intend this to be a learning opportunity. So don't expect me to respond to people who are deliberately being inflammatory. I choose only to respond to those who make me believe that they have an IQ above room temperature. That being said... let me begin. I am a white nationalist. I'm probably the whitest person, in both fit and form, that I know. What I have noticed is that within the white nationalist community there is this infantile group of conspiratards who are obsessed with the Jews. Now, I'm not saying that their arguments are illegitimate. I'm simply saying it's a waste of fucking time. These people are so intellectually dishonest and so radicalized that they're unable to have a general conversation without asking loaded questions and being condescending - accusing anyone who dissents from their propaganda of being a Jew. This is cannibalism. This is not a good look and it further suggests that they are weak in their position, else they would not be threatened by dissenting opinions. I would say I feel sorry for them, but I suspect their motive is not honest, rather it is to associate stupidity, immaturity, radicalism, and hate with White Identity. I can almost hear the sound of the Happy Merchant rubbing his callous hands together. These supposed white conspiratards and their Nazi ilk will ALWAYS be as repulsive as child sex predators and that's not me insulting them, rather that's me telling them how the majority demographic of white people see them. That should give them something to think about! Perhaps they should change their strategy if their interest is truly with saving white society. But it's not, is it? Of course not! They're infested with Jew hate and nothing else matters to them. And they're willing, out of spite, to cut the throat of their own people just to knock down the Jew. This is so virtuous, it's almost modern. Of course, all of this is assuming they're even white to begin with... which I have my suspicions otherwise. Moving on... One of the problems with the Jew conspiracy is that it attempts to attribute motive onto the actions of those you otherwise have no clear evidence for. Because you can find some Jewish people saying unkind things about white people, and because some can blame Jews for some atrocities in the past, and because you can find Jews at the upper echelons of society, even disportionately, it still doesn't prove your case. And of course this becomes obvious when a Jew does something that NatSocs agree with - like promoting the nuclear family unit. Suddenly they go quiet! Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can see the flaw in this conspiracy theory. Your case wouldn't even hold up in an honest court of law - outside of kindergarten rumor mills, it's the lowest evidentiary standard known to man. It's so low, it's not even remotely reliable in science! That's how low of a standard you people are unable to meet. But the biggest problem I have with the conclusions you conspiratards draw about who's to blame for all that ails white society is that you inadvertently remove responsibility that white people have for their own decisions. It's like witnessing an illicit drug transaction and watching the buyer smoke it, go home, rape his wife, and beat his kids... and then blaming the whole thing on the dealer. This is part of why I prefer the positive side of things. I call it "White Positivity". It's about promoting white identity without disparaging another. Surely you've heard people say "Loving your own race doesn't mean hating another", or something similar to that, right? Yet, so few of you are willing to live up to that. You're unwilling to take the high road. You don't realize that white people see themselves on a moral high ground. This is part of their keenly evolved defense mechanism and you have to appeal to those defenses if you intend to get through to them. But you will never succeed as long you're down there peddling in outrage and hate. It'll never work. You need a different strategy. But, as most of you have already demonstrated (or are about to), you don't have the cognitive ability to do that. You refuse to see a failed strategy and replace it. This is part of why I promote accelerationism because most white people are suicidal and retarded and nothing that weak and overcome by their enemy deserves to survive. We need a new breed of whites and none of you thin wristed, pot smoking conspiratards are worth saving. You are nothing but shackles around the feet of every morally affluent, well-to-do white person. White people are beautiful because we are rare in the grand scheme of things and there are just too many of us to be considered "rare" in any serious way anymore. Thank God most of you are so physically and intellectually repulsive that you have removed yourself from the gene pool. Nature has a beautiful way of solving problems... and that's something to smile about. Carry on with your negativity. It's worked so well for you in the past.

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[–] [deleted] • 3 pts (edited )

You seem to believe that there are only two groups to be in. The group that believes jews are a the problem, and the group that doesn't. Unfortunately the world isn't black and white, just many shades of gray.

It's about promoting white identity without disparaging another.

Then....

We need a new breed of whites and none of you thin wristed, pot smoking conspiratards are worth saving

lol

[–] • 1 pt

You sound like I did 5 years ago. Like many others here, I spent the past several decades trying to be positive and accepting of non-whites, despite the over-whelming evidence of their hatred towards whites. I still try to stay as positive as possible despite the increasing clown world reality. I was raised to love America and observe The Golden Rule so I don't go around acting like a prick to non-whites. At some point, however, enough is enough. The writing is on the wall, clear as brand new graffiti. There is absolutely no amount of positivity that will save you, I and our families from the brown horde that is being roused to rape and murder our children for our witnessing before they do the same to us. I'm sure by now you've realized this doesn't end well for people who are nice about it.

[–] • 0 pt

"White Positivity", in the way I used it, meant only that we can love our own without disparaging another. It doesn't require us to believe that others don't hate us. Of course they do! Nor am I suggesting that we should be "accepting" of anyone else. I'm simply saying that being positive about your own and not drowning it in these images of hatred and immaturity is a good idea. People don't go to their own church and disparage other churches and they don't stand outside and scream "FUCK YOU HERETICS!" to other passerbys. If they did that, how would that make that congregation look? That's what these NatSocs are doing to the white race by constantly branding it with Swastikas, Kike Infatuation, and shouting "NIGGER!" from the rooftops.

White people are really good about buttoning up their shirts and looking affluent in society - pretending there are no problems in their life. These NatSocs and others have forgotten about that and they've reduced themselves down to angry teenagers. As a result, the entire movement seems repulsive to your average white normie.

[–] • 0 pt

I agree with most of your points. One that I disagree with is about people not disparaging other churches. They absolutely do this. They even disparage others in their own congregations. IMO, that is why church membership is in decline. Most churches are run and filled with hypocrites that only want to change others without introspection of themselves. This has caused much of the spiritual void that exists in the younger generations. That spiritual void is the key to fixing things. I don't want to advocate for any single religion or denomination but people, especially white people, need that. It helps us define morality, is the basis for how we live our lives and the basis for the civilizations that our ancestors built. This decline of white values is directly linked to the decline in spirituality and churches have allowed this to happen, even promoted it.

[–] • 0 pt

None of that had anything to do with my point. You clearly don't get what I'm saying. Please don't fill up the replies with off topic ramblings.

[–] • 1 pt

It definitely is unbecoming to see someone shout “nigger” and “kike” at all their problems, but it is understandable that they’re a bit frustrated.

That being said, your points are reasonable up to a certain point - accelerationism looks good in theory but fails in execution. If accelerationism worked, everyone would have realized how fucked things were once the coronacaust hit and we were all locked in our homes, prevented from doing business, and forced to destroy our economies.

Accelerationism isn’t the answer, and calling yourself a “white nationalist” is just as cringe as being some faggot that yells “ITS DA JOOS” all the time.

The true answer is... there is no perfect solution; however, I’d like to think that nationalism in and of itself is important. The white part, sadly, is an autistic pipe dream, at least for America. You will never, EVER, have a “pure white” America without convincing a majority of the population to do mass deportations or worse. White people are too empathetic and caring for everyone to be on board with that idea - you’re literally autistic if you disagree.

This is turning to a rant, so here’s a TL;DR

Love yourself and your people. Be someone worth emulating. Dare to get into politics even though it’s rigged. Push to normalize white advocacy and unity - once we break that taboo, life gets easier from there.

[–] • 2 pts

Who still wants a pure white America? America is dead. A continent spanning empire was never a good idea in the first place. The only thing dumber is a multicultural empire.

A White independent nation should be the goal. Where and what it's called is not really that important.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

I have good news for you then: secession is on the menu. I’m not confident it’ll happen, but I am confident that enough people have woken up that someone running on a platform of breaking away from the US could actually win. Once secession happens, there would need to be a crap ton of logistics done, and that’s where maybe “we have a right to a white majority” can be written in somewhere, lol.

Barring that, you can still find plenty of based nonwhites that agree with the premise that America is great due to its white majority, and it’s in their best interest for whites to maintain that majority and influence.

Edit: just making this edit for a prediction of the future, so clip this and save it in your archives, maybe, lol...

If an ethnostate actually managed to get created due to secession, and “whites have a right to maintain their majority and influence over politics,” actually got added to the constitution.... I’d be willing to bet hundreds of years from now, after our deaths, some faggot would find a way to naval-gaze and purity spiral into “WELL WHAT DOES WHITE EVEN MEAN?”

Ugh, the founding fathers probably thought of similar shit. Lol, the x-factor of the human element is maddening.

[–] • 2 pts

Good points!

  1. You're right that saying "white nationalist" is cringey. I do feel a bit cringey when I say it. It's so edgy it's embarrassing. But I don't think being a white nationalist means you must advocate for a "pure white" society. We need laborers after all! lol
  2. The accelerationist point was just me releasing pinned up aggression. But there is still a nugget of truth in there that most white people are too virtuous - "blank slatists", or perhaps "pathological altruistis". Whatever you want to call it... it's suicidal at the very least. Is it worth saving those people if they're committed to killing themselves? That's a legit question!
  3. Yes, I am "autistic" both metaphorically and literally. I am often accused of failing to sense the underlying emotions of those around me. I'm convinced empathy is a weakness. But I often struggle with even picking up on jokes or sarcasm sometimes, though I have no trouble dishing it out. I have some flaws to work out, for sure.

Thanks for the mature response. I'll think on it.

[–] • 0 pt

No worries. My key takeaway I hope you seriously consider is that normies are too retarded to understand the logic without getting into a bind over their emotions.

Also consider what you’re up against - the only reason Hitler got into power was because he managed to solve the media problem FIRST, then he went on to gain power from there.

Right now we have a media that’s completely against us - it’s quite literally a sisyphean task we’re pitted with, but I’d like to think anything can be overcome with God on your side.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Here's my take:

  • yes, the whole nazi thing is hurting us, we need to understand that people are programmed to react to those things associated with Hitler with an instinctive repulsion that shuts off their minds to anything we have to say. Admit you are a nazi and you are done, a lot of /pol/media has failed on this front, their projects always include the nazis, and they are never portrayed with any method of getting past to programmed defenses, its always them just going out and shooting a bunch of charactitures of one group of another. It would be better to attack the ideas and concepts with involving the things that produce bias, like race or national socialism. On another note, my problem with national socialism also extends to their stubborn commitment to recreating that specific political system, when we should be proposing the idea of building the best system we can, they dig their heels in and say that natsoc was the best system, they refuse to participate in a scientific or historical debate on policy, they just want to bring back one specific set of policies, and we don't even know if this was actually Hitler endgame, because he was still making changes to his country and its policies when the war broke out and forced him to put everything on hold. There's even more in saying that we can't be a group that just wants to go back, that's for marxists, libertarians, and conservatives, we should be the one group who wants history to move forwards, learning from the past instead of actively trying to recreate it.

  • yes, there are good jews and smart negroes, but none of that is counter to what we are saying, which is that there is a majority among the jews who hate whites and seek our enslavement and extermination, and it's the aggregate that we wish to bring to people's attention, because the aggregate is what matters. I understand that saying "it's the jews" sounds like "it's all the jews" rather than "it's most of the jews" or "it's the work of jewish supremacists seeking the subjugation and destruction of the white gentiles", perhaps we need to get better at getting our message out in a more complete and nuanced manner.

  • yes, we have a lot of issues facing us, and nothing we say here is secure enough or free enough to be effective at discussing solutions, we need to move off the internet and onto the ectmryoted channels of communication off the easiky accessed surface web. Tor, freenet, i2p, element/riot/matrix, even telegram if you can get a message to a fake number to set up your account. I'm not talking about meeting up, merely communicating where our conversations are less visible.

  • we can reach the property directly, a simple note that shares forbidden information like tge genes linked to intelligence and their prevelance among whites and blacks, the archeological evidence of whites being the true first people in North Africa, the Middle East, India, North America, South America, and even in Japan (also how archeological evidence is being sought out to be destroyed before it can be known of). For a start.

  • I wouldn't abandon talking about the jewish problem, but I would leave nazism behind. It's not helping, I can attest to that, I understand that it was a great system for it's time, and that it had a lot of good ideas that we need here today, i also understand that none of it deserves the hate it gets, but we aren't being helped by clingimg to these shadows of the past.