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Wow, I wonder why. Long hours, low pay, no advancement, companies that just hire contractors...no, that couldn't be the problem, could it?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-10/chip-workers-are-likely-to-quit-jobs-worsening-labor-shortage

Wow, I wonder why. Long hours, low pay, no advancement, companies that just hire contractors...no, that couldn't be the problem, could it? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-10/chip-workers-are-likely-to-quit-jobs-worsening-labor-shortage

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There is no such thing as a "labor shortage" every time you hear this phrase someone is lying to you.

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There's always a labor shortage ... of people wanting to work for what's being paid.

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Add H1B visas to that list of grievances.

I'm coming up on my 20th anniversary of the day I quit the industry next month. It doesn't sound like much has changed in management style, except they are apparently hanging onto people over 40 now. They used to tag them in layoffs unless they were exceptional and happy to put up with the hours and corporate bullshit. They loved to get rid of the over-40s because they "made too much" and group insurance costs was based on the average age of their workforce.

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H1B will put up with a lot of shit to keep their jobs, they're the perfect employee.

The people I know that have been contacted locally by Intel state that they want people who can work 12 hour shifts. That doesn't work when you have, oh I don't know, anything else going on in your life?

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I went through long multi-month periods of 12 hour workdays. We used to joke that we were only working half days. I know so many guys that should have been home having quality time with the wife and kids but instead were at work busting their ass after hours to keep up with outrageous product schedules in order to guarantee they kept their jobs and their managers/directors (who worked 8hr days) got the extra special bonuses only available to those exempts above staff engineer. Many guys ended up divorced, and/or had kids that didn't respect them because they weren't around during their formative years. Work-life balance was a common discussion but no one had any good solutions. I loved the work but management made the expected volume untenable if one wanted a balanced life. Unfortunately the semiconductor expertise made it very hard to find other, less demanding non-semiconductor related work that paid similar or better wages.

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That really sucks, I've done the 10h/7d thing, and that just about damn near killed me - when I was a lot younger.

I'm not hearing good things about what Intel is asking for here, so it probably hasn't changed at all.