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In 2004 the Baltic States were granted NATO membership. This put NATO on Russia’s border, something that was promised to never happen. Jame Baker assured Russia they would not pursue moving NATO eastward during meetings after the Berlin Wall fell. This secured Russia’s support for a united Germany.

In 2014 the US backed a coup of the democratically elected government. The new government was pro-west and this immediately caused chaos in Crimea and Donbass. Understandably Russia was not happy. Ukraine furthered the insult to Russia by cutting off the fresh water supply to Crimea.

This history needs to be understood to cut through the Western bias of most news sources. The West cannot act like they are blameless in the Ukrainian conflict.

Jumping forward a bit, we see Putin emboldened by what he perceives a weakened state of Western Nations. When Biden took office he took steps that made America dependent foreign oil again. Biden stopping the XL Pipeline and killing federal drilling leases was a huge blow to American oil independence. Meanwhile Biden also gave the green light to the Nord Steam 2 pipeline. Weakening the West and giving strength to Putin (something Trump warned about (youtu.be))

Now Putin did guess wrong at the West’s response to his invasion. He had to have thought he had Germany by the balls and they would continue to buy his natural gas. Surprisingly Germany had other ideas. Putin also likely did not think Biden’s Administration would risk rising oil prices by making meaningful sanctions.

Where do we go from here?

It is a bad situation on all sides. The US should stay out of it. America has already sent Ukraine over $1 Billion dollars. Dollars that could be better used at home. America needs to focus on energy independence again. Higher oil prices benefit Russia and hurt the US economy. You have to ask why we are allowing that?

The question isn’t what we should do to Russia, the question is why should we care? We never should have gotten involved in 2014 or allowed NATO expansion in 2004. We created this mess and now we bitch about Russia responding. It’s just more NeoCon bullshit if you ask me.

Biden kills XL pipeline / drilling https://insideclimatenews.org/news/21012021/biden-cancels-keystone-xl-and-halts-arctic-drilling-fossil-fuels/

Ukraine $1 Billion https://www.state.gov/additional-military-assistance-for-ukraine/

Nord Stream 2 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674

US broke NATO promise https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html

2014 Ukraine Coup https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-perpetrated-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine/

Crimea water supply https://euromaidanpress.com/2021/03/13/water-shortages-in-occupied-crimea-now-so-great-moscow-likely-to-step-up-pressure-on-kyiv-kazarin-says/

@Professor_de_la_Paz @stupidbird @Intrinsic @0K @LakotaPride

In 2004 the Baltic States were granted NATO membership. This put NATO on Russia’s border, something that was promised to never happen. Jame Baker assured Russia they would not pursue moving NATO eastward during meetings after the Berlin Wall fell. This secured Russia’s support for a united Germany. In 2014 the US backed a coup of the democratically elected government. The new government was pro-west and this immediately caused chaos in Crimea and Donbass. Understandably Russia was not happy. Ukraine furthered the insult to Russia by cutting off the fresh water supply to Crimea. This history needs to be understood to cut through the Western bias of most news sources. The West cannot act like they are blameless in the Ukrainian conflict. Jumping forward a bit, we see Putin emboldened by what he perceives a weakened state of Western Nations. When Biden took office he took steps that made America dependent foreign oil again. Biden stopping the XL Pipeline and killing federal drilling leases was a huge blow to American oil independence. Meanwhile Biden also gave the green light to the Nord Steam 2 pipeline. Weakening the West and giving strength to Putin ([something Trump warned about](https://youtu.be/OXqZf72pAhk)) Now Putin did guess wrong at the West’s response to his invasion. He had to have thought he had Germany by the balls and they would continue to buy his natural gas. Surprisingly Germany had other ideas. Putin also likely did not think Biden’s Administration would risk rising oil prices by making meaningful sanctions. Where do we go from here? It is a bad situation on all sides. The US should stay out of it. America has already sent Ukraine over $1 Billion dollars. Dollars that could be better used at home. America needs to focus on energy independence again. Higher oil prices benefit Russia and hurt the US economy. You have to ask why we are allowing that? The question isn’t what we should do to Russia, the question is why should we care? We never should have gotten involved in 2014 or allowed NATO expansion in 2004. We created this mess and now we bitch about Russia responding. It’s just more NeoCon bullshit if you ask me. Biden kills XL pipeline / drilling https://insideclimatenews.org/news/21012021/biden-cancels-keystone-xl-and-halts-arctic-drilling-fossil-fuels/ Ukraine $1 Billion https://www.state.gov/additional-military-assistance-for-ukraine/ Nord Stream 2 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674 US broke NATO promise https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html 2014 Ukraine Coup https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-perpetrated-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine/ Crimea water supply https://euromaidanpress.com/2021/03/13/water-shortages-in-occupied-crimea-now-so-great-moscow-likely-to-step-up-pressure-on-kyiv-kazarin-says/ @Professor_de_la_Paz @stupidbird @Intrinsic @0K @LakotaPride

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Yeah some details aside, such as a little lack of accurate dates and names, that always reinforce the persuasion side of things as in "this guy knows what he's talking about; he can name names and date shits" and shortcuts like "Jumping forward a bit..." "--to dodge what?", and assumptions such as "Biden also gave the green light to the Nord Steam 2 pipeline." (yeah more or less willingly...), the whole narrative holds water, let's leave it at that. Now indeed, let's not make it the focus of things here, from an american standpoint; not our fucking problem we're in deep shit at home <- that's the important part the american audience must realize, because the MSM wants americans to focus on ukraine one way or the other in the end, and that's not what REALLY matters for the american people; ukraine is a european thing, it's literally on the other side of the globe, there are more pressing issues at home, and the US needs as much of a military confrontation against russia as it needs a new asshole, on the forehead

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I can work on sourcing a bit better. I do agree that strengthens any argument.

Jumping forward a bit

I meant this only as moving forward in time, not as a means to skip over or dodge anything. Is there anything noteworthy between 2014 to current time that I should include?

not our fucking problem we're in deep shit at home <- that's the important part the american audience must realize, because the MSM wants americans to focus on ukraine one way or the other in the end, and that's not what REALLY matters for the american people; ukraine is a european thing, it's literally on the other side of the globe, there are more pressing issues at home, and the US needs as much of a military confrontation against russia as it needs a new asshole, on the forehead

Amen brother

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Is there anything noteworthy between 2014 to current time that I should include?

Yes, the Minsk agreement (and the failure of US and the EU to force Kiev to implement it), the constant shelling of the breakaway regions, and the moves of Ihor Kolomoyskyi (https://infogalactic.com/info/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi).

Kolomoyskyi is the Israel connection, he tries to restore a part of the Khazar empire (http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CK%5CH%5CKhazars.htm) and to create Little Israel in Europe. He owns the Azov Battalion as his private army, and he owns Zelensky.